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DC7C 12-05-2018 10:00 PM

ALPA Fails...
 
So where to begin? How about at the beginning when Mr York said $245 ask and let’s get this over with. Good will? Toward Indigo?
Face it folks, ALPA thinks your RJ pilots. Unionism is practically dead at F9, so no pitch forks storming the castle.
You’ve settled for less and will be stained as weaklings...
Congrats to Barry Biffle, Mr Nides and Indigo management, I am man enough to reconize the best “Game, set, match” in recent history. Very nice roll job. You read the pilots perfectly.
If I knew 25 years ago it would come to this, ida flipped sides. I am a Frontier shareholder through and through, come IPO time.
ALPA is a country club Union....Moral of a The story?
1) NEVER GIVE UP ANYTHING! Ever, never, ever.
2) ALPA thinks you’re second class, and by voting Yes you’ve earned it.
Jeff Thomas was right, ALPA sold us short. My apologies.

V1 McFlyerson 12-06-2018 04:57 AM

Stained as weaklings and fittingly so.

sailingfun 12-06-2018 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by DC7C (Post 2719769)
So where to begin? How about at the beginning when Mr York said $245 ask and let’s get this over with. Good will? Toward Indigo?
Face it folks, ALPA thinks your RJ pilots. Unionism is practically dead at F9, so no pitch forks storming the castle.
You’ve settled for less and will be stained as weaklings...
Congrats to Barry Biffle, Mr Nides and Indigo management, I am man enough to reconize the best “Game, set, match” in recent history. Very nice roll job. You read the pilots perfectly.
If I knew 25 years ago it would come to this, ida flipped sides. I am a Frontier shareholder through and through, come IPO time.
ALPA is a country club Union....Moral of a The story?
1) NEVER GIVE UP ANYTHING! Ever, never, ever.
2) ALPA thinks you’re second class, and by voting Yes you’ve earned it.
Jeff Thomas was right, ALPA sold us short. My apologies.

ALPA is a association that provides support to your union which is FAPA. Your pilots that you elect to FAPA make the decisions you mention above. If what you say is true you made poor choices.

dracir1 12-06-2018 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2719844)
ALPA is a association that provides support to your union which is FAPA. Your pilots that you elect to FAPA make the decisions you mention above. If what you say is true you made poor choices.

What?

So FAPA represented us during negotiations?

RustyChain 12-06-2018 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 2719849)
What?

So FAPA represented us during negotiations?

I think he is sorta correct. Our elected people are from our pilot group. If we were FAPA or IBT or anyone else, the same individuals would have likely been elected and the organization would be largely the same no matter what you call it.

ToddChavez 12-06-2018 06:27 AM

I don't get it, I'm on the fence and waiting to see the whole package to make a final decision, but you really think you're going to influence me or anyone else with this emotional laden tripe? Present me some facts if you want to influence my vote...

Ohreallynow 12-06-2018 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 2719849)
What?

So FAPA represented us during negotiations?

Fwiw, the agenda was set forth by FAPA.

ReserveCA 12-06-2018 06:58 AM

Does ALPA have a “ no confidence vote”?
Time for new reps

ToddChavez 12-06-2018 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2719910)
Does ALPA have a “ no confidence vote”?
Time for new reps

LOL, I assume you'll be stepping up so you can pound your fists on the NMB's table and make demands?

RustyChain 12-06-2018 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2719910)
Does ALPA have a “ no confidence vote”?
Time for new reps

That's why it takes 6 months to a year to see another TA...


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