Reserve and Junior Pilot Info
 

What are reserve line min days off? How hard are reserve guys being worked? Also what are the reserve shift times?

What are min days off for line holders? Are lines generally commutable?

I’ve tried searching but didn’t find much if any info on initial qol items.

Minimum 12 days off for reserve and line holders. Most lines have more than 12 off. There are AM, MID, and PM reserve windows all with 2 hour call out (3 hours to push) that can be bid to your liking. How hard you work on reserve depends on the base and month. Ranges from beating guarantee to having to go to the sim for landing currency.

Just like at any airline, if you live in domicile, reserve is not bad. Under the recently ratified CBA at F9, effective May there are several enhancements to reserve, including:

1. Reserve can pick up trips on days off like line holders, and the pay goes on top of guarantee.

2. New reserve lines that have all 12 of your days off continuously, or in 4 days blocks, but not sure how many will be offered.

The lines with all 12 off in a row (FDO lines) will be no less than 10% and no more than 20% of all reserve lines in domicile.

The lines with 3 different blocks of 6 RDPs in a row will not exceed 10% of all reserve lines in domicile (but no requirement for the company to build any). My guess is in 31 day bid periods they won’t. Can’t be giving reserves an extra day off.

Reserve times?
 

How long are new hire guys spending on reserve right now in each base until they get a line? Thanks

These are enhancements for the company, not the pilot... this was a concession in every sense of the word... oh, and now you can only swap to have 3 day reserve blocks... another concession... the nc did a deplorable job looking out for reserves

Not sure I agree. Picking up on a day off to go on top of guarantee is win/win IMO.

It might be a win for you when you get a paycheck here and there but this undermines your seniority... it makes it so much more efficient for the company... why do you think we have the 125% over 82... they want you to work your a$$ off... paying you more means they have to hire fewer pilots and ultimately that means you stay on reserve longer and remain more junior as time goes on...

Plus all it says in the contract is crew scheduling shall not unreasonably deny such a request... the punishment?? A letter to the association explaining why... that’s tight language... I can’t remember a time the company or scheduling has been “reasonable” since I’ve worked here so your supposed benefit is probably going to be more difficult to cash in on than you think... I guess we’ll find out in a few days....

Flying on days OFF......screw that

Just to be clear they can’t say no to picking up through aggressive reserve into a day off. Unless a buffer is exceeded.

The best deal with the new reserve rules imo would be to do just that with a trip that finishes early on a day off. That leg plus any tafb rig pays above guarantee.

United has this and I know several pilots that love it.

The only time they can say no is when adding into a block of rdp. They should only say no if the grid is bad. This all assumes it’s 117 and buffer legal.

I completely agree on the 82. Personally I wanted it gone for a higher pay rate. Unfortunately polling data showed pilots wanted to keep it and quite frankly it would have be viewed as a concession if it went away.

Why anyone wants to work over 82 is beyond me. Get a life. Lower your overhead. Life is short, enjoy it away from work. Lol

Maybe worry about yourself and let others do the same?
Options are nice.

Why anyone wants to pry into what someone else credits is beyond me. Get a life, worry about yourself. Life is short, enjoy it how you choose.

When is the grid ever good? How many times have they said no even when it’s a contractual right? I’m not really sure why anyone thinks because we have a new cba that anything will change... it’s laughable... and what’s even more pathetic is the union isn’t even going after monetary damages for grievances filed for the start of the contract... They want to “work with the company” to make sure the contract is implemented properly... they just invite bull$hit...

Get ready to wear hats too.... the company wants that now... it says in section 18, “at the pilots option, a hat may be purchased”... watch the union cave on that one and not get us anything...

Oh... My.... God....

HATS!!!

That’s it... I’m out here. If I wanted to look like a pilot, I’d dress up as one for Halloween.

What’s next... Wings on our shirts!?

Wait....... 🙄

Did you guys vote in PBS?

I don’t know where your based or what seat your in so I can’t answer your first question. If they say no and it’s your contractual right file a dispute. That’s how this works. As far as your statement about how the union isn’t going after monetary damages that’s incorrect as well. It depends on what provision of the contract was violated. If the intent of the language Is clear (99% of it is) you will get paid. At the pilots option means you can opt not to purchase one.

Let’s just assume the grid is always bad in the seat and base your in. You can add through aggressive reserve into days off (they can’t say no) You can add on days off (they can’t say no) You can’t add into your next rdp block ( due to the grid always being bad).

That just shows how little you get it... it’s not about hats... it’s in our contract that it’s at our option... it’s a contractual right bargained for... if we give that to the company, then I want something to replace it in return... I want an extra sick day a month, or an extra week of vacation... anything but I’m sure our union will say, “you’re right company... what else can we give you for free?”

Yes.

Should go into effect next January. Maybe earlier.

We retained a lot of good work rules with it. We will still be able to add, swap, drop, and split trips. We also got some nice vacation policies with PBS.

Also, we will use NavBlue

While I agree with your overall premise two things. I’m pretty sure that’s carry in language from an Loa we got for one of the paycuts. It’s essentially language that allowed us to not wear hats because prior to that Loa they were required. So with that in mind I don’t see the company now being able to use that language to require hats. The practice is established and the intent is clear through the Loa. That’s the whole reason it was carried in. Two, I wouldn’t say it was bargained for I would characterize it as given to us a for 75 million plus paycut. In the end I don’t care enough about it to go back and look up old Loa’s. Have fun if you want to. P.s. there are pilots that like to wear hats and this language allows for that.

LAS base junior FOs! Just curious percentage of red eyes and number of days off per month?
Also, Can you bid mornings to stay away from red eyes (reserve)? I am a morning person and red eyes kill me.
Crash pads in Vegas? Ballpark price?
Sorry for really basic questions, but haven't flown domestically for over 13 years.
Is Vegas a growing base? Upgrade times for LAS?

Happy

Average days off for LAS was 15.

Short call RSV RAPs are 10.5 hours starting at 0400, 0800, 1200, 1700 and 1900. So yes, you can bid mornings.

Thx for the response.

I'm about 10% up the FO list in LAS, to date I've been blocking 30 to 40 hours, and flying 11 to 15 days a month. AM reserve seems to go more senior, so plan a few months on Reserve D (1700 - 0000) with a fair share of redeyes. I'm hopeful of a relief line by May (7 months on the line).

Crash pad run between $200 to $350, from what I've seen.

LAS has not been growing, all of the growth is happening in PHL, and since we are at the 100 crew mark in LAS I don't know if I expect that to change. LAS is very redeye heavy so there is no way, that I can see to avoid them long term.

Good luck, PM if you end up needing crash pad leads.

What’s the minimum days off on reserve?

12

Twelve for APC filler

12 days off

Can anyone chime in with similar info for Denver?

Can LAS be gotten out of training? If not how long to hold? Where are people getting placed out of training?

On the last system bid from February, people from the January class were awarded ORD, MCO, DEN, and PHL. LAS went the month before to the December class. I would guess you may have to spend a month or two in Denver before being able to transfer to LAS.

Thanks for the information

On the latest bid there are no openings for LAS just yet. So it might be several months before you can get into LAS. As much as we are growing though it won't be long. Things are changing constantly.

There were actually 3 fairly junior LAS FO spots that opened up on this latest vacancy due to movement and upgrades.

I think there were some unfilled ORD F/O spots after the vacancy award as well, presumably that will go to new hires directly out of class.

Where can you hold a line quicker? ORD or DEN?