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flightlevels 05-15-2019 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2819170)
That may be it. A friend had a friend text him yesterday that his class had been suspended indefinitely.


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Im currently in the pool. Got a call that it will be between September to December worst case scenario.. but alot of F9 pilots i talk to do say that they might get back on schedule in August.....
Hiring is halted for now. That is true.

Aero1900 05-15-2019 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by flightlevels (Post 2820600)
Im currently in the pool. Got a call that it will be between September to December worst case scenario.. but alot of F9 pilots i talk to do say that they might get back on schedule in August.....
Hiring is halted for now. That is true.

They did the exact same thing the last 2 summers in a row. I'm sorry that you are put in this position. I'm willing to bet classes will start again September at the latest.

flightlevels 05-15-2019 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2820756)
They did the exact same thing the last 2 summers in a row. I'm sorry that you are put in this position. I'm willing to bet classes will start again September at the latest.

Thanks for the info! Hopefully..
Patience is the name of the game

TurboFanMan 05-15-2019 01:38 PM

What’s crazy is, a lot of premium trips have been dumping into the folder. A lot of MCO and PHL ironically enough. Overstaffed?

Prettywhacked1 05-15-2019 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 2820788)
What’s crazy is, a lot of premium trips have been dumping into the folder. A lot of MCO and PHL ironically enough. Overstaffed?

Gross incompetence by crew scheduling....

Nothing new there.....sadly.....

SFA320 05-15-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 2820788)
What’s crazy is, a lot of premium trips have been dumping into the folder. A lot of MCO and PHL ironically enough. Overstaffed?

I’ve been wondering the same thing. It’s been happening daily.

fcoolaiddrinker 05-15-2019 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by SFA320 (Post 2820828)
I’ve been wondering the same thing. It’s been happening daily.

Vja and ja were pretty common In the previous agreement. That was before a northeast base. Doesn’t mean we’re understaffed. It’s pretty clear we’re fat on pilots right now. There were 96 lines system wide built under 75 in April. That translates to 100’s if not over 1000 hrs of soft time. That’s without ANY rig factored in.

Aero1900 05-15-2019 07:32 PM

I agree. I do not think that a few premium trips indicate any understaffing at all.

I need to grab my iPad and read the contract, but I believe it's set up to create a lot of premium trips. Anything that falls into open time after reserves are assigned trips following aggressive reserve goes into premium, right?

I remember thinking, while reading the TA, that we should see a fair amount of trips drop into the premium folder.

And unless reserves are flying more than 50 or 60 hours a month, we ain't under staffed

OpenClimb 05-15-2019 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2820999)
And unless reserves are flying more than 50 or 60 hours a month, we ain't under staffed

I’m at 27 hours of credit EXcluding any credit accumulated by flying on my days off. Exactly halfway through my reserve days this month.

On track for 54 credit. Denver reserve captain. Short call. Mornings.

fcoolaiddrinker 05-16-2019 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2820999)
I agree. I do not think that a few premium trips indicate any understaffing at all.

I need to grab my iPad and read the contract, but I believe it's set up to create a lot of premium trips. Anything that falls into open time after reserves are assigned trips following aggressive reserve goes into premium, right?

I remember thinking, while reading the TA, that we should see a fair amount of trips drop into the premium folder.

And unless reserves are flying more than 50 or 60 hours a month, we ain't under staffed

Correct. That didn’t change. The new agreement just eliminated 1.25% and made it a free for all on the 1.5%. Basically relieved crew scheduling from having to make a bunch of phone calls. Those phone calls were a major driver of disputes as they tended to make mistakes frequently. Some mistakes were due to lack of contractual knowledge and some due to the language itself (gray areas). IMO it’s better now that we took crew scheduling out of the loop on premium. All they can do now is add inc. which is a good thing.


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