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Old 05-13-2019, 03:41 AM
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I’ve heard all new hire classes have been suspended indefinitely. Anyone else hear this?


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I’ve heard all new hire classes have been suspended indefinitely. Anyone else hear this?


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Nope.

What is your source of information?
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:51 AM
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I’ve heard all new hire classes have been suspended indefinitely. Anyone else hear this?


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Talking to the instructors it sounds like the pause in hiring is common in the summer time. But they seem to suspect the pause won't last as long as people are thinking as we get into summer.
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Talking to the instructors it sounds like the pause in hiring is common in the summer time. But they seem to suspect the pause won't last as long as people are thinking as we get into summer.

That may be it. A friend had a friend text him yesterday that his class had been suspended indefinitely.


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That may be it. A friend had a friend text him yesterday that his class had been suspended indefinitely.


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Thanks for sharing Bruno

IMHO the slow down is a combination of a high productivity contract as well as a means for increasing airline performance. We need more spares to get the on time and completion factor up. Once that settles you will see new bases opening and hiring will resume. Summer always has a hiring lull anyways.
Now on the flip side there could be other variables at work but an airline like Frontier has to grow or it will not make it.
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I was a 26 March hire. Told to expect June’ish training on that day, then an official email saying July-August, and then a late April a phone call from the hiring team saying training classes will *start* in December. Also, they won’t tell you where you are in the pool, so you might even be looking at longer start dates. All the others in my interview group got the same message.

The reasons were a bit confusing, primarily crediting this to increased productivity, yet at same time they are still expecting to stay on their growth profile. Guessing a lot of guys can’t hang out for 9 months waiting on their training.

Not sure if anyone else can explain the behind-the-scenes why Frontier is expecting to triple in size over next ~5 years yet are now significantly delaying their pilot hiring/training??


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Not sure if anyone else can explain the behind-the-scenes why Frontier is expecting to triple in size over next ~5 years yet are now significantly delaying their pilot hiring/training??


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All I can say to that is; when I was hired we heard similar stories of growth, getting up to 140 aircraft from 60 something within 5 years. Every year it's been max blast hiring followed by full stop for the winter and foreseeable future. Hiring always started back up by the early fall. We have added aircraft on schedule as they stated since I came on board.

A lot of info from management seems like bs and smoke and mirrors, but the growth has happened as projected in my time here.
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They are trying to run as lean as possible over the summer to try and pad the numbers for when they announce the IPO this summer. Same thing they pulled last time when they were attempting the IPO before they put the pause on it (Summer 2017). I’ll put money on it that they’ll start small classes again in August or September with large classes again toward the end of the year.
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They are trying to run as lean as possible over the summer to try and pad the numbers for when they announce the IPO this summer. Same thing they pulled last time when they were attempting the IPO before they put the pause on it (Summer 2017). I’ll put money on it that they’ll start small classes again in August or September with large classes again toward the end of the year.
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To all those guys that didn’t apply here when the contract battle was raging...then subsequently applied and were hired only to have your class postponed: I hope you hang in there and come to work here. I, and many others, owe you a beer.
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One only needed to look at Spirit over the past year to see the effects of voting in a nearly identical contract.

Spirit also put a hold on hiring and upgrades for a long time as they reaped the benefits of increased productivity. We are now hiring and upgrading again, but there was a pause.

This is not meant to be a negative post, simply a statement of how I see it. If you're in the pool, hang in there, or keep your apps updated elsewhere. Your choice I guess.

Or come to Spirit now and leapfrog your pool buddies since we're going to merge anyways.
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