joepilot

Many airlines shut down much of their training for the summer so that the instructors can fly the line during the busiest months.

Joe

rickair7777

Yup.

Sometimes if they get behind on training, they have to make the call whether to invest in their near future staffing, or send the instructors to the line. If you cover the summer at the expense of training, you might get burned over the holidays later in the year.

fcoolaiddrinker

Understood. That’s not what’s going on at F9. Were simply overstaffed.

Prettywhacked1

BL spoke at Recurrent this morning, said hiring embargo is usual effect of summer turning sim PIs loose to fly the line. Zero change here.

Will resume in 2 months, and continue through end of year.

fcoolaiddrinker

Thier turning them loose because there’s no new hire classes, that happened first. No offense but BL says a lot of things that turn out to be false. We’re overstaffed by at least 100 pilots. When we get another 8/10 (depending on % spares) ac we won’t be.

NWSteeringArmer

It’s not a good thing for many reasons... the first being it undermines seniority... junior manning is supposed to run through the seniority list in order and then in reverse order... so now it’s basically whoever is fastest with a phone or a mouse... that’s bs... second, it relieves the company of actually having to work through their fukk ups... now they get to throw it in a folder and not think twice about it... we bailed the company out with this one... third... you’re absolutely correct... it did drive grievances and disputes... and a lot of pilots were paid a lot of money because of their incompetence, myself included... I tried to dispute an illegal pairing that was put in the premium folder and I was told to pound sand... this contract bailed the company out in so many ways and this is a big part of it... everyone said “we deserve more, we’ve earned it”... well we got the what we asked for and this turd is exactly what we deserve

fcoolaiddrinker

We will just have to disagree on that I guess. Bottom line is premium pays more now. 150% at least.

sdsunick1

An ALPO rep I spoke to recently said that due to improved efficiencies in scheduling software, we are 18% over staffed from that alone. You guys haven’t noticed better trips in the bid packets with more days off? We are doing the same amount of flying while needing less pilots.

Prettywhacked1

Really? I dare say with ALL RGS (PT & PC) being 2 day events (that’s a 133% increase in requires sim time per pilot already on property), there is more than enough to be done.

I think it’s as simple as F9 slows hiring each summer, as that’s when many senior sim PIs have VAC, whether they fly it or chill.

My candid take after hearing Mgt this week........

NWSteeringArmer

JA was 150%... that’s no different... and when they JAd round 2, they’d drop trips... I got an extra 10 days off last year bc of that... I guess we will have to disagree but fewer pilots and more efficiencies for the company means compromised seniority for you