What’s going on?
04-01-2020, 09:29 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
So the April COLA award has not been posted and it’s past noon, east coast, on 01APR. We also received an obscure email from ALPA yesterday regarding more routes that may have to be flown if grant money is accepted. It makes me think the company may be reconsidering taking the grant money and putting most people on 50hr pay for April; they may want to take a much more draconian measure to conserve cash.
Also, the revised bid notice states that awards will post “No later than 1700 Denver Local April 20, 2020”. They still have five and a half hours to post.
04-01-2020, 09:39 AM
#32
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We’re taking the grant. I’m about as close to 100% on that as possible.There’s probably more coming at some point in the future. By the way cola is out. At first glance it’s hundreds. Now they can start working on waivers.
04-01-2020, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
I actually took that email from the union to mean the opposite. To me, I got the vibe that the union was basically saying “If you’re planning to roll the dice and bid reserve, not fly and get paid 75hrs to sit at home instead taking a 50hr COLA, you may find yourself actually having to work more than you thought”. I could be completely off, but it sounded like the company was more solid than ever in their decision to take the grant.
Also, the revised bid notice states that awards will post “No later than 1700 Denver Local April 20, 2020”. They still have five and a half hours to post.
Also, the revised bid notice states that awards will post “No later than 1700 Denver Local April 20, 2020”. They still have five and a half hours to post.
The whole reason behind the 5 emails/texts from the union was to prepare the pilot group for a very abbreviated timeline for bidding April COLA-1. And the award could happen ASAP since the COLA month was starting immediately.
04-01-2020, 09:49 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
Yeah the first part of that was said almost word for word a page back, I would agree that interpretation of the Union email. The second paragraph you posted references system bids not COLA-1, specifically rebidding the last system bids that were canceled.
The whole reason behind the 5 emails/texts from the union was to prepare the pilot group for a very abbreviated timeline for bidding April COLA-1. And the award could happen ASAP since the COLA month was starting immediately.
The whole reason behind the 5 emails/texts from the union was to prepare the pilot group for a very abbreviated timeline for bidding April COLA-1. And the award could happen ASAP since the COLA month was starting immediately.
04-01-2020, 10:13 AM
#36
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So since he COLA 1 is out thought I would post the numbers.
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27
CHI FO 24
DEN CA 59
DEN FO 71
LAS CA 25
LAS FO 33
MCO CA 28
MCO FO 29
MIA CA 5
MIA FO 8
PHL CA 35
PHL FO 25
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27
CHI FO 24
DEN CA 59
DEN FO 71
LAS CA 25
LAS FO 33
MCO CA 28
MCO FO 29
MIA CA 5
MIA FO 8
PHL CA 35
PHL FO 25
04-01-2020, 10:40 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
So since he COLA 1 is out thought I would post the numbers.
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27
CHI FO 24
DEN CA 59
DEN FO 71
LAS CA 25
LAS FO 33
MCO CA 28
MCO FO 29
MIA CA 5
MIA FO 8
PHL CA 35
PHL FO 25
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27
CHI FO 24
DEN CA 59
DEN FO 71
LAS CA 25
LAS FO 33
MCO CA 28
MCO FO 29
MIA CA 5
MIA FO 8
PHL CA 35
PHL FO 25
04-01-2020, 11:03 AM
#38
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I took your numbers and compared those against the April bid packets. I subtracted the 36 pilots listing for “Training” in April.
369 pilots took COLA-1 out of 1355 bidding pilots. Which is 27.2% participation system wide.
The percentages by base/seat are in your quote below. COLA awards divided by line bidding pilots.
369 pilots took COLA-1 out of 1355 bidding pilots. Which is 27.2% participation system wide.
The percentages by base/seat are in your quote below. COLA awards divided by line bidding pilots.
Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
So since he COLA 1 is out thought I would post the numbers.
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27 (27/83= 32.5%)
CHI FO 24 (24/76= 31.6%)
DEN CA 59 (59/225= 26.2%)
DEN FO 71 (71/243= 29.2%)
LAS CA 25 (25/105= 23.8%)
LAS FO 33 (33/114= 28.9%)
MCO CA 28 (28/130= 21.5%)
MCO FO 29 (29/121= 23.9%)
MIA CA 5 (5/28= 17.9%)
MIA FO 8 (8/29= 27.6%)
PHL CA 35 (35/97= 36.1%)
PHL FO 25 (25/104= 24%)
Counted every domicile and seat twice for accuracy, but could still be off by a couple but here’s what it looks like.
TOTAL 369
CA 179
FO 190
CHI CA 27 (27/83= 32.5%)
CHI FO 24 (24/76= 31.6%)
DEN CA 59 (59/225= 26.2%)
DEN FO 71 (71/243= 29.2%)
LAS CA 25 (25/105= 23.8%)
LAS FO 33 (33/114= 28.9%)
MCO CA 28 (28/130= 21.5%)
MCO FO 29 (29/121= 23.9%)
MIA CA 5 (5/28= 17.9%)
MIA FO 8 (8/29= 27.6%)
PHL CA 35 (35/97= 36.1%)
PHL FO 25 (25/104= 24%)
04-01-2020, 12:20 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by MtnPeakCruiser
I took your numbers and compared those against the April bid packets. I subtracted the 36 pilots listing for “Training” in April.
369 pilots took COLA-1 out of 1355 bidding pilots. Which is 27.2% participation system wide.
The percentages by base/seat are in your quote below. COLA awards divided by line bidding pilots.
369 pilots took COLA-1 out of 1355 bidding pilots. Which is 27.2% participation system wide.
The percentages by base/seat are in your quote below. COLA awards divided by line bidding pilots.
04-01-2020, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary et al
I got the exact same numbers, not bad but not great either. Roughly a 7% reduction in pay obligations, though 33% would be the max reduction from guarantee with every pilot on COLA.
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