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Aero1900 04-23-2022 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 3410888)
latest round of section 19 hearings began last week…I got invited for having the audacity to hold off boarding with no logbook nor firm return to service guesstimate……what a world!

Please post again after the hearing to tell us how it went.

You should remind them that it frequently takes a long time to get a return to service even after the logbook has been signed off and you didn't want to risk a tarmac delay waiting for mtx control to click a button on their computer screen

Best of luck to you

SFA320 04-23-2022 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3410899)
You get disciplined for making decisions? I dont even think my regional is that bad. And they pretty much suck too.

If this is true, where in the heck is the union!?

Flyhigh44 04-23-2022 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 3410888)
latest round of section 19 hearings began last week…I got invited for having the audacity to hold off boarding with no logbook nor firm return to service guesstimate……what a world!


Who did you pi$$ off?

dracir1 04-23-2022 09:24 AM

So maybe I’m misunderstanding something. How is that a Section 19 offense? Not boarding while out of service? What actual CBA or FOM policy was broken? What specifically was cited for having done (or not do)?

SFA320 04-23-2022 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3411013)
So maybe I’m misunderstanding something. How is that a Section 19 offense? What actual CBA or FOM policy was broken? What specifically were you cited for having done (or not do)?

My thoughts exactly.

fcoolaiddrinker 04-23-2022 09:26 AM

I would be careful about putting specific information on this website that allows management to figure out who you are. You don’t want to tie your reps hands.

BiffleBalls 04-23-2022 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3411017)
I would be careful about putting specific information on this website that allows management to figure out who you are. You don’t want to tie your reps hands.

Excellent point. Aside from that, they have nothing on you based on what you posted. If this BS keeps up Frontier Airlines is about to become "Frontier Flight Training Academy, where your path to the Legacy Airlines begins!"

fcoolaiddrinker 04-23-2022 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3411036)
Excellent point. Aside from that, they have nothing on you based on what you posted. If this BS keeps up Frontier Airlines is about to become "Frontier Flight Training Academy, where your path to the Legacy Airlines begins!"

Right. Better to keep it that way.

dracir1 04-23-2022 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3411036)
Excellent point. Aside from that, they have nothing on you based on what you posted. If this BS keeps up Frontier Airlines is about to become "Frontier Flight Training Academy, where your path to the Legacy Airlines begins!"

Eh. To some degree.

Many talk about leaving but few (with more than 6 to 9 years here) do. It’s basically a bad marriage and the divorce is super costly.

We just won’t grow…

BiffleBalls 04-23-2022 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3411039)
Eh. To some degree.

Many talk about leaving but few (with more than 6 to 9 years here) do. It’s basically a bad marriage and the divorce is super costly.

We just won’t grow…

The FO's I write letters for have all gotten hired at legacies (obviously due to my exemplary wordsmithing) a couple were right on the cusp of upgrade. I'm in your 6 to 9 year group and you are exactly right about me, divorce is too costly.


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