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spooldup 01-16-2023 08:30 AM

If you are hell bent on staying in Iowa, id look at a carrier with an ORD base (not spirit, theirs is shrinking) probably United or American.

Frontier is probably some of the best QOL you will get if you live in base, that being said, if you are open to moving. A big and growing F9 base could have you enjoying your QOL easily.

Commuting sucks and there is no way else to put it, but some people find that commuting for their family and needs is more important than moving to any airline base and will gladly do it. That choice is up to you.

PossibleDeviation 01-16-2023 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3572520)
If you are hell bent on staying in Iowa, id look at a carrier with an ORD base (not spirit, theirs is shrinking) probably United or American.

Frontier is probably some of the best QOL you will get if you live in base, that being said, if you are open to moving. A big and growing F9 base could have you enjoying your QOL easily.

Commuting sucks and there is no way else to put it, but some people find that commuting for their family and needs is more important than moving to any airline base and will gladly do it. That choice is up to you.

NK ORD has settled at about 250 pilots, still plenty of flying and high hopes for when the JB merger happens. I've flown with a handful of IA commuters while being based in ORD. Only your standard commuting complaints but as they were 8-10 year captains, they have no plans to leave.

JoeFever1 01-16-2023 08:53 AM

Commuting to a major is still a better career than corporate though. I’d go hard for United/AA.

vrtule12 01-16-2023 02:24 PM

I read in some other posts that seem to indicate that F9 is currently favoring shorter trips say... 2 vs 4 day. That'd probably further reinforces being in base. What say you F9 peeps?

turbojet28 01-16-2023 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by vrtule12 (Post 3572697)
I read in some other posts that seem to indicate that F9 is currently favoring shorter trips say... 2 vs 4 day. That'd probably further reinforces being in base. What say you F9 peeps?

You read correctly

Cfii123 01-17-2023 10:20 AM

how is reserve in base? do you get used less than a line holder on average at the expense of being on call basically?

BufordT Justice 01-17-2023 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Cfii123 (Post 3573344)
how is reserve in base? do you get used less than a line holder on average at the expense of being on call basically?

You will almost certainly be used less frequently than a line holder bidding a normal schedule. How much you get used will vary widely from base to base and even month to month, and will depend on which reserve slot you end up on. Either way, being on reserve while living in base is a pretty decent gig for most people.

Mooneyguy 01-18-2023 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Rohhiram (Post 3572461)
I think I know the answer, but how's the QOL for someone who would always been commuting at Frontier? Pay would be secondary.

i used to think the same way. Not any more. QOL is what you make of it. The company goes out of its way to get around our rules. Or they just flat out ignore them. They had their chance to do right by us. Thank you delta. Now it’s all about the pay. I’ll fly day turns as a commuter making 350 an hour. NK’s ta is a no vote here now.

FlyingR6 01-18-2023 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mooneyguy (Post 3574184)
i used to think the same way. Not any more. QOL is what you make of it. The company goes out of its way to get around our rules. Or they just flat out ignore them. They had their chance to do right by us. Thank you delta. Now it’s all about the pay. I’ll fly day turns as a commuter making 350 an hour. NK’s ta is a no vote here now.

"Goodwill has no value" -Frontier CEO Barry Biffle. That's what we need on our lanyards and bag tags.
Where are my old XJTers at? FUPM.

LFDR2pointNo 01-18-2023 12:12 PM

I’m out of the loop, did BB actually say “goodwill has no value”?


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