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hercretired 08-13-2023 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3682076)
Then you see Miami with 9 per day in Sept.

what was Miami at when they opened it

hercretired 08-13-2023 11:19 AM

Circa 2019: (Pre-COVID....)

https://news.miami-airport.com/front...m-mia-in-2020/


(Miami, December 19, 2019) – On December 18, low-fare carrier Frontier Airlines announced the establishment of a new 130-employee crew base and eight additional routes at Miami International Airport in 2020, including first-time international service for the airline from MIA. The new routes to Austin; Baltimore; San Salvador, El Salvador; Guatemala City, Guatemala; Islip, New York; Ontario, Calif.; Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic; and Trenton, N.J. – all commencing between April and June of 2020 - will expand Frontier’s service to 22 nonstop destinations from MIA.
Looks like they had 14 cities prior to the announcement, with 8 added, to make 22 destinations. Again, pre-COVID. Not sure how gun-shy Barry and company is now, but 20 always seemed to be the happy spot for the prior bases, to include DFW.

HSCompressor 08-13-2023 12:01 PM

I'd be more curious if their plans have changed with the possible gates/slots from the JB/NK divesture agreement.

ERAUAV8R 08-13-2023 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by HSCompressor (Post 3682107)
I'd be more curious if their plans have changed with the possible gates/slots from the JB/NK divesture agreement.

rumor is it we’re going to run 330’s out of Trenton across the pond

PFranz 08-14-2023 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R (Post 3682281)
rumor is it we’re going to run 330’s out of Trenton across the pond

nah, 330’s TTN to ISP is more like it

Powderkeg 08-14-2023 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3682089)
Circa 2019: (Pre-COVID....)

https://news.miami-airport.com/front...m-mia-in-2020/



Looks like they had 14 cities prior to the announcement, with 8 added, to make 22 destinations. Again, pre-COVID. Not sure how gun-shy Barry and company is now, but 20 always seemed to be the happy spot for the prior bases, to include DFW.

You’re right this was all pre-Covid AND pre-attempted merger, I assume they would’ve tried a co-domicile with FLL had the merger gone through (I think the FAs already have that). We still have a fair amount of FLL flying too so I don’t rule that out in the future. I don’t see MIA going away but I don’t see it doing much else until the BK/NK merger details are finalized and we decide where our assets need to go.

hercretired 08-14-2023 08:18 AM

previous articles about DFW base:

https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontie...ional-airport/


....To celebrate the occasion, America’s Greenest Airline is offering fares from DFW starting at $39*. Service to new destinations, which started this month, include Montego Bay, Jamaica (MBJ), San Juan, Puerto Rico (SJU), Cleveland (CLE), and New York LaGuardia (LGA). With the new service, Frontier will serve 21 destinations from DFW, making Frontier the airport’s third largest carrier based on destinations served.
again "20 destinations rule" in play. I might modify this to say "with new cities considered in the total, 20 destinations as a minimum"

which means CVG indeed is in play

spooldup 08-14-2023 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3682463)
previous articles about DFW base:

https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontie...ional-airport/



again "20 destinations rule" in play. I might modify this to say "with new cities considered in the total, 20 destinations as a minimum"

which means CVG indeed is in play

CVG would be huge for a lot of people... CLE, not so much. At least for what I know, it would bring at least 2-3 people I know up there. If we ever see ORD/MDW again, It would make my life so much better and so many other people's as well. Even if they add 60 slots back into DEN.

Right now they shrunk DEN and closed ORD and it just ruined a lot of other bases because super senior people are scattered around now.

turbojet28 08-14-2023 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3682470)
CVG would be huge for a lot of people... CLE, not so much. At least for what I know, it would bring at least 2-3 people I know up there. If we ever see ORD/MDW again, It would make my life so much better and so many other people's as well. Even if they add 60 slots back into DEN.

Right now they shrunk DEN and closed ORD and it just ruined a lot of other bases because super senior people are scattered around now.

DS said in RGS a few months ago that the whole MDW/ORD thing will be in flux for a while as the chips fall from the B6/NK merger. He actually made the point that the higher fares from that combined airline, plus the fact that AA is largely surrendering domestic share in ORD might very well end up changing the competitive landscape and see us back in ORD in a bigger way at some point down the road.

Powderkeg 08-14-2023 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3682473)
DS said in RGS a few months ago that the whole MDW/ORD thing will be in flux for a while as the chips fall from the B6/NK merger. He actually made the point that the higher fares from that combined airline, plus the fact that AA is largely surrendering domestic share in ORD might very well end up changing the competitive landscape and see us back in ORD in a bigger way at some point down the road.

Another thinly veiled attempt at stemming attrition by offering the hope of free candy from the back of a van.


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