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Plabelover 03-06-2023 01:27 PM

Requirements
 
Can I get hired at F9 with 1500 TT and no jet/turbo-prop time?

Xdashdriver 03-06-2023 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3603021)
Can I get hired at F9 with 1500 TT and no jet/turbo-prop time?


Yes. Filler

citationxtango 03-10-2023 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3603021)
Can I get hired at F9 with 1500 TT and no jet/turbo-prop time?

Absolutely. Several people in the February Class with 30 hours of multi time and not even eligible for unrestricted ATP...

dracir1 03-11-2023 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by citationxtango (Post 3605681)
Absolutely. Several people in the February Class with 30 hours of multi time and not even eligible for unrestricted ATP...

?

you sure about that?

citationxtango 03-11-2023 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3605873)
?

you sure about that?

Yup. I would say 5 or 6 people who are eligible for R-ATP and will be getting it once they take their checkride. All the ones I talked to had less than 50 hours of multi time and zero turbine time.

ESQ702 03-11-2023 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by citationxtango (Post 3605898)
Yup. I would say 5 or 6 people who are eligible for R-ATP and will be getting it once they take their checkride. All the ones I talked to had less than 50 hours of multi time and zero turbine time.

Are they from one of the feeder programs F9 uses or off the street CFIs? I thought non-feeder program pilots had to apply with their ATP in hand to be eligible for hire currently.

Nighthound 03-11-2023 08:06 AM

How about if I have more than 2000 TT. Prior 121 experience, Airbus type, but I am not a US citizen, nor carrying a Green Card. I have Work Authorization though and allowed to work in the US, but can't leave the country until my Green Card is approved? Have anyone in Frontier heard about similar experience, or flown with someone with same situation?

VASBYT 03-11-2023 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Nighthound (Post 3606016)
How about if I have more than 2000 TT. Prior 121 experience, Airbus type, but I am not a US citizen, nor carrying a Green Card. I have Work Authorization though and allowed to work in the US, but can't leave the country until my Green Card is approved? Have anyone in Frontier heard about similar experience, or flown with someone with same situation?

If you cannot leave the country, this might be a problem since we do international flying.

M4HQ 03-11-2023 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Nighthound (Post 3606016)
How about if I have more than 2000 TT. Prior 121 experience, Airbus type, but I am not a US citizen, nor carrying a Green Card. I have Work Authorization though and allowed to work in the US, but can't leave the country until my Green Card is approved? Have anyone in Frontier heard about similar experience, or flown with someone with same situation?

I wonder the answer as well. I have E2 non immigrant visa I can freely Travel in and out The US. In addtion I have MBA idegree 4000+ hours on jets. I met all criterias well above but They asked me green card. If you find a way let me know. I will jump the first plane.

dracir1 03-11-2023 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by M4HQ (Post 3606113)
I wonder the answer as well. I have E2 non immigrant visa I can freely Travel in and out The US. In addtion I have MBA idegree 4000+ hours on jets. I met all criterias well above but They asked me green card. If you find a way let me know. I will jump the first plane.

Have you applied and been told anything by HR?

Shrek 03-11-2023 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by M4HQ (Post 3606113)
I wonder the answer as well. I have E2 non immigrant visa I can freely Travel in and out The US. In addtion I have MBA idegree 4000+ hours on jets. I met all criterias well above but They asked me green card. If you find a way let me know. I will jump the first plane.

MBA that needs spell-checker ? 🤔

M4HQ 03-11-2023 01:20 PM

I applied and sent email
 
Probably,You are right Shrek , I need speel-checker and grammer controller. May be I do not understand " Must be authorized to work in the U.S." mean . Nobody gave me clear answer why they do need green card? If you have an answer why they do not accept. I will be happy

Mooneyguy 03-12-2023 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Shrek (Post 3606164)
MBA that needs spell-checker ? 🤔

because I’m always soooo concerned about my spelling or grammar on APC!

pat72G 03-25-2023 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 3603036)
Yes. Filler

from Frontier's website.

HOURS
1500 hours total time (2500 preferred)
750 hours multi-engine fixed wing
500 hours pilot in command (PIC)
500 hours jet/turbo-prop

You mean they would go from 750 ME and 500 jet to almost none required from new applicants?

WarniWarni 03-26-2023 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by pat72G (Post 3613707)
from Frontier's website.

HOURS
1500 hours total time (2500 preferred)
750 hours multi-engine fixed wing
500 hours pilot in command (PIC)
500 hours jet/turbo-prop

You mean they would go from 750 ME and 500 jet to almost none required from new applicants?

Yes. Recruiter at career fair pretty much told me once I had my ATP/R-ATP, to email her to get an interview set up. I'm currently in training at a regional. There's also a bunch of cadets going through from Riddle, Purdue, ATP, etc who are all 1000/1500 hr CFIs.

BobChungus 03-26-2023 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by pat72G (Post 3613707)
from Frontier's website.

HOURS
1500 hours total time (2500 preferred)
750 hours multi-engine fixed wing
500 hours pilot in command (PIC)
500 hours jet/turbo-prop

You mean they would go from 750 ME and 500 jet to almost none required from new applicants?


Yes and they have been for quite a while.

Plabelover 03-26-2023 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by pat72G (Post 3613707)
from Frontier's website.

HOURS
1500 hours total time (2500 preferred)
750 hours multi-engine fixed wing
500 hours pilot in command (PIC)
500 hours jet/turbo-prop

You mean they would go from 750 ME and 500 jet to almost none required from new applicants?

I realized that f9 the only ulcc that requires jet time, i would love if spirt or swa had a PHL base lol

groundlooper 03-26-2023 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3614210)
I realized that f9 the only ulcc that requires jet time, i would love if spirt or swa had a PHL base lol

the 750 ME/500 turbine has not been a hard requirement for probably over a year now. jet time not a hard requirement

Plabelover 03-26-2023 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by groundlooper (Post 3614231)
the 750 ME/500 turbine has not been a hard requirement for probably over a year now. jet time not a hard requirement

Thank you 🙏

jdm7565 03-26-2023 07:11 PM

Can someone correct me if I'm off base here? My understanding of hiring pools at Frontier are:
1) cadet pathway (ATP, CFI, or similar flight school partnership). Frontier will pay for ATP/CTP and Jet Transition Course (JTC) out of the bonus for new FO hiring.
2) RTP (rotor transition program), Same thing with ATP/CTP and JTC- gets taken out of new hire bonus.
3) traditional FO hiring applicant window. Need ATP/CTP and ATP written complete to get hired but the ATP isnt mandatory (i.e. you'll get ATP rating with the A320 rating).

And the bonus is $50k but you need to stay all 3 years otherwise you'll have to pay it back in full (pre-tax amount), correct? Any idea how much the ATP/CTP and the JTC costs out of the new hire bonus? Thanks for any info!

Xdashdriver 03-27-2023 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by jdm7565 (Post 3614402)
Can someone correct me if I'm off base here? My understanding of hiring pools at Frontier are:
1) cadet pathway (ATP, CFI, or similar flight school partnership). Frontier will pay for ATP/CTP and Jet Transition Course (JTC) out of the bonus for new FO hiring.
2) RTP (rotor transition program), Same thing with ATP/CTP and JTC- gets taken out of new hire bonus.
3) traditional FO hiring applicant window. Need ATP/CTP and ATP written complete to get hired but the ATP isnt mandatory (i.e. you'll get ATP rating with the A320 rating).

And the bonus is $50k but you need to stay all 3 years otherwise you'll have to pay it back in full (pre-tax amount), correct? Any idea how much the ATP/CTP and the JTC costs out of the new hire bonus? Thanks for any info!

Traditional hiring you need a RATP or ATP in hand before being considered.

planejoe 03-27-2023 03:32 AM

Also, the taxes aren't taken out of the "bonus" since it is technically a loan which is forgiven 3 years later. Once forgiven it becomes income and you are responsible for the taxes.

SonicFlyer 03-27-2023 07:01 AM

How hard is it to get MCO as a base?

spooldup 03-27-2023 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3614570)
How hard is it to get MCO as a base?

you will have it out of training or close to it.

www.fftpilots.com

Plabelover 03-27-2023 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3614570)
How hard is it to get MCO as a base?

I heard that MIA you can get it right out class and you will hold a line within one or two month (I read it on a thread I don't work for the airline)

Plabelover 04-08-2023 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by WarniWarni (Post 3614170)
Yes. Recruiter at career fair pretty much told me once I had my ATP/R-ATP, to email her to get an interview set up. I'm currently in training at a regional. There's also a bunch of cadets going through from Riddle, Purdue, ATP, etc who are all 1000/1500 hr CFIs.

Do you know if I need an ATP to be considered for an interview?

Xdashdriver 04-08-2023 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Plabelover (Post 3621094)
Do you know if I need an ATP to be considered for an interview?

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