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Quote: As I mentioned before there were around 1000 open disputes. A ta was agreed upon. Next we need to resolve all open disputes. Without that step the ta goes away because we clearly still have language disagreements. 500ish of those were hotel related so those paid somewhere around $100 per for the legit ones. Multiple non legit grievances were withdrawn. Historically speaking around 30% of all disputes under our old contract were not contract violations. I’ll guess that 30% has dropped way down to sub 10%. There’s a few reasons for that. 1-standard Alpa language compared to Fapa language. 2- way more definitions and examples. 3- most negotiation sessions were recorded for language intent recall if needed. Finally gray area disputes were resolved. Several of those paid out depending on old vs new language. That took the longest and there were to many to discuss in detail for understanding without basically writing a book about it. Each one was thoroughly vetted by a committee member. I had one or two withdrawn without payment due to someone sr getting it or another it just wasn’t a clear contract violation.
Just an fyi. Before indigo most disputes were resolved with the chief pilots office monthly. Few became grievances. That was also true for about the first year of our current agreement.
Good words.
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Quote: As I mentioned before there were around 1000 open disputes. A ta was agreed upon. Next we need to resolve all open disputes. Without that step the ta goes away because we clearly still have language disagreements. 500ish of those were hotel related so those paid somewhere around $100 per for the legit ones. Multiple non legit grievances were withdrawn. Historically speaking around 30% of all disputes under our old contract were not contract violations. I’ll guess that 30% has dropped way down to sub 10%. There’s a few reasons for that. 1-standard Alpa language compared to Fapa language. 2- way more definitions and examples. 3- most negotiation sessions were recorded for language intent recall if needed. Finally gray area disputes were resolved. Several of those paid out depending on old vs new language. That took the longest and there were to many to discuss in detail for understanding without basically writing a book about it. Each one was thoroughly vetted by a committee member. I had one or two withdrawn without payment due to someone sr getting it or another it just wasn’t a clear contract violation.
Just an fyi. Before indigo most disputes were resolved with the chief pilots office monthly. Few became grievances. That was also true for about the first year of our current agreement.
Only I would add is that this grievance problem didn't necessarily start with Indigo, it started with B.L. This is one of his tricks to step on the necks of the pilot group. He pulled the same garbarge at Horizon.
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Quote: Only I would add is that this grievance problem didn't necessarily start with Indigo, it started with B.L. This is one of his tricks to step on the necks of the pilot group. He pulled the same garbarge at Horizon.
Indigo took a bunch of weak Fapa language and practice arguments from pilots not filing disputes to arbitration well before BL. But yes he has definitely taken it to a new level. The difference is this time it’s going to be much more difficult for management to win those arguments in arbitration. Better language and more grievances to counter practice. We know you always do that (contract violation) that’s why there’s so many grievances about xyz.
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So another month w/o FDO lines (despite many bases having more than 20 RSV lines)?
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Quote: So another month w/o FDO lines (despite many bases having more than 20 RSV lines)?
What does a group grievance pay out for something like this when the time comes?
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Quote: What does a group grievance pay out for something like this when the time comes?

That was outlined a bit on the previous page. It would be best if 6 pilots (fo and captain) that had vacation in a domicile that didn’t comply with the language filed a dispute. That more than likely would represent the highest value remedy. Hopefully that happens because if it doesn’t and it is a group grievance the remedy becomes challenging for anything more than a cease and desist. Basically nobody had a problem because they didn’t want an fdo (no disputes were filed) but it was a clear contract violation. The unions hands will get tied on a remedy without pilots stepping up and spending the 5 mins to get potentially a few grand to file.
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I'm a new hire and I'm not touching **** under 5 hours. I encourage everyone in my class to do the same. If I'm going to the airport to work, 5 hours minimum.
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