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BarryBiffle 12-15-2025 12:20 PM

I quit
 
Team Frontier:



Today we are sharing an important update regarding a transition in the CEO role at our company. Jimmy Dempsey has been appointed Interim Chief Executive Officer of Frontier Airlines effective immediately. Barry Biffle will remain with the company in an advisory capacity through the end of the month.



Jimmy joined Frontier in 2014 as Chief Financial Officer, and most recently served as Frontier’s President. Prior to joining Frontier, he held senior management roles at Ryanair Holdings PLC along with various management roles with PricewaterhouseCoopers.



Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. Board Chair William Franke, stated, “Jimmy has been an invaluable member of Frontier’s senior leadership team for more than 10 years and has played an instrumental role in the company’s evolution and growth during that time. We believe Jimmy is uniquely qualified to guide our airline into the future.” Franke added, “The Board of Directors is deeply appreciative of Barry’s leadership and dedicated service to Frontier over the past 11 years. We thank him for his many contributions during his tenure.”



Jimmy Dempsey shared, “I am honored and excited to lead Frontier Airlines and thank the Board for its trust to shape Frontier’s future with the 13,000+ dedicated and hardworking members of Team Frontier. I look forward to partnering with our team to write Frontier’s next chapter.”



Additional information will be forthcoming in a separate communication from Jimmy.



Thank you.

redhot 12-15-2025 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by BarryBiffle (Post 3981141)
Team Frontier:



Today we are sharing an important update regarding a transition in the CEO role at our company. Jimmy Dempsey has been appointed Interim Chief Executive Officer of Frontier Airlines effective immediately. Barry Biffle will remain with the company in an advisory capacity through the end of the month.



Jimmy joined Frontier in 2014 as Chief Financial Officer, and most recently served as Frontier’s President. Prior to joining Frontier, he held senior management roles at Ryanair Holdings PLC along with various management roles with PricewaterhouseCoopers.



Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. Board Chair William Franke, stated, “Jimmy has been an invaluable member of Frontier’s senior leadership team for more than 10 years and has played an instrumental role in the company’s evolution and growth during that time. We believe Jimmy is uniquely qualified to guide our airline into the future.” Franke added, “The Board of Directors is deeply appreciative of Barry’s leadership and dedicated service to Frontier over the past 11 years. We thank him for his many contributions during his tenure.”



Jimmy Dempsey shared, “I am honored and excited to lead Frontier Airlines and thank the Board for its trust to shape Frontier’s future with the 13,000+ dedicated and hardworking members of Team Frontier. I look forward to partnering with our team to write Frontier’s next chapter.”



Additional information will be forthcoming in a separate communication from Jimmy.



Thank you.

times are changing over here at F9, buckle up.

DrSmacFum 12-15-2025 12:31 PM

Outside looking in… could this be related at all to a marriage with spirit

LinaPeru 12-15-2025 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3981152)
Outside looking in… could this be related at all to a marriage with spirit

sure. It’s about as related to Barry marrying your mom. Who the hell knows. You think anyone here knows?

CatPilot1 12-15-2025 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3981152)
Outside looking in… could this be related at all to a marriage with spirit

I bet Dave Davis becomes CEO of combined company. He pulled a rabbit outta the hat with Spirit.

DrSmacFum 12-15-2025 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981154)
sure. It’s about as related to Barry marrying your mom. Who the hell knows. You think anyone here knows?

yikes, sorry for asking

CGLimits 12-15-2025 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981154)
sure. It’s about as related to Barry marrying your mom. Who the hell knows. You think anyone here knows?

Wow…not having a good day? Thanks for representing the F9 pilots in such a classy way.

Herewegoagain 12-15-2025 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981154)
sure. It’s about as related to Barry marrying your mom. Who the hell knows. You think anyone here knows?

whoa. Lay off the energy drinks bro.

Potcake 12-15-2025 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3981152)
Outside looking in… could this be related at all to a marriage with spirit

I doubt it. Dempsey will probably tighten things up and get our house in order first before any type of merger possibility. Might see some base closures or realignments. I’d venture to say it might speed up contract negotiations. He can’t implement his “strategy” with a ****ed off unpredictable pilot group.

ReserveCA 12-15-2025 01:13 PM

Is it “I quit” or “BB gets the boot” ?…….

CGLimits 12-15-2025 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3981177)
Is it “I quit” or “BB gets the boot” ?…….

I think he got the boot. The email was not from him, so my guess is he got fired. About time…at least I see this as a good thing.

redhot 12-15-2025 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Potcake (Post 3981176)
I doubt it. Dempsey will probably tighten things up and get our house in order first before any type of merger possibility. Might see some base closures or realignments. I’d venture to say it might speed up contract negotiations. He can’t implement his “strategy” with a ****ed off unpredictable pilot group.

best case scenario spirit has enough cash till end of January. Remember the next 50 million is still contingent on an indication of interest or plan of re org. If something is gonna occur I think sometime in January it would be announced.

Mugatu 12-15-2025 01:23 PM

Indigo Partners is about to buy Spirit. Biffle will run Spirit as a private company until Frontier merges. That’s my guess.

shrsailplanes 12-15-2025 01:24 PM

Finally. After BB’s reckless spending habits we are going to see some serious cost cutting to lead us to profitability to infinity and beyond!!

CGLimits 12-15-2025 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mugatu (Post 3981184)
Indigo Partners is about to buy Spirit. Biffle will run Spirit as a private company until Frontier merges. That’s my guess.

Goodness I hope not…but that actually sounds like something they would do.

CatPilot1 12-15-2025 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mugatu (Post 3981184)
Indigo Partners is about to buy Spirit. Biffle will run Spirit as a private company until Frontier merges. That’s my guess.

im guessing announcement Wednesday

covid19 12-15-2025 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Potcake (Post 3981176)
I doubt it. Dempsey will probably tighten things up and get our house in order first before any type of merger possibility. Might see some base closures or realignments. I’d venture to say it might speed up contract negotiations. He can’t implement his “strategy” with a ****ed off unpredictable pilot group.

So the Ryanair guy who was all in on multiple bases, and the day-turn model that Ryanair does, is now going to change? I expect more chaos.

BagMan 12-15-2025 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3981152)
Outside looking in… could this be related at all to a marriage with spirit

Indigo will buy Spirit for <500 Million Debt free.

You may be thinking that will not happen... Your Right.

It comes down to what Spirit owns (which as far as I can see is some office space in South Florida and a hotel) Beyond that the only value in in the whole airline intact. However I don't see anybody lining up to buy the Airline because any suiters could just spend the money and expand in to the spirit shadow without taking on the debt. So It all depends on how long it takes the people who control Spirit to recognize this as a stop loss situation. As it stands right now they are selling a couple of buildings and turn kay airline for well more than there worth. A few people have come over to kick the tires ,but nobody seems to see any value.

For what it's worth Frontier asset wise is in the same position we may not even own the headquarters building IDK

Salukipilot4590 12-15-2025 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by covid19 (Post 3981214)
So the Ryanair guy who was all in on multiple bases, and the day-turn model that Ryanair does, is now going to change? I expect more chaos.

No matter what happens....somehow I get screwed....

LinaPeru 12-15-2025 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by CGLimits (Post 3981164)
Wow…not having a good day? Thanks for representing the F9 pilots in such a classy way.

crying over mommas jokes now?

worry less about my class, and tell us more how im wrong.

Barry brief you CGLimit on his way out the door today? No? Didnt think so.

dracir1 12-15-2025 04:44 PM

What's the over/under on his golden parachute? $5M?

CGLimits 12-15-2025 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981261)
crying over mommas jokes now?

worry less about my class, and tell us more how im wrong.

Barry brief you CGLimit on his way out the door today? No? Didnt think so.

You may be right, you may be wrong….I am not worried about your lack of class, only a bit embarrassed by it, as an F9 pilot.

RStrawberry 12-16-2025 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Aviator Singh (Post 3981403)
Stepping back, this feels bigger than a Frontier-only story. It looks like an Indigo portfolio correction.

Barry Biffle did not torch the place and he did not announce a long planned retirement. He was replaced quietly, wrapped in polite language and an advisory role. That is classic Indigo behavior. No public blame, no drama, just a reset when the board decides the tolerance line has been crossed.

What matters is the precedent. A long tenured CEO at a listed ULCC was not immune once execution and results came under pressure. That tells you something about where Indigo’s patience currently sits.

You can see similar signals elsewhere in the Indigo portfolio. At Wizz Air in Europe, the airline recently announced a new Chief Commercial Officer, but never clearly said what happens to the existing one. That is unusual for a public company. Normally these changes are over explained. When they are not, it usually means a sensitive or forced transition being managed quietly.

Put together, this looks like Indigo correcting course after several years where growth stories and big personalities were allowed to run with less scrutiny. The tone now feels different. More focus on delivery. Less tolerance for drift. More hands on governance without making noise in the market.

This is not about panic or purges. It is about tightening control across the group. And that should worry any CEO in an Indigo-backed airline who thinks tenure, reputation, or being the public face of the company makes them untouchable.

Within Indigo, nobody is immune. The Frontier move just made that very clear.

Thanks ChatGPT.

chinookwinds 12-16-2025 05:28 AM

The company communication reads “Jimmy Dempsey has been appointed Interim Chief Executive Officer” , although Jimmey’s response states "he is looking forward to partnering with the rest of the team to write Frontiers next chapter”
HMMM, What's behind curtain number 2, or as Paul Harvey would say “Now the rest of the story” ???
I think this change of guard is required if Frontier has a chance to adapt to the industry and return to profitability. It will be interesting to see what that looks like in the final chapter of this story.

chinookwinds 12-16-2025 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3981272)
What's the over/under on his golden parachute? $5M?

And< i will take the over on this....At least 2 times that amount

nene 12-16-2025 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3981177)
Is it “I quit” or “BB gets the boot” ?…….


It's the long coveted "CEO attrition" people have been waiting for....

Mozam 12-16-2025 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981154)
sure. It’s about as related to Barry marrying your mom. Who the hell knows. You think anyone here knows?

I came seeing if anyone knew anything. I guess I got what I should have expected. :)

LinaPeru 12-16-2025 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Mozam (Post 3981591)
I came seeing if anyone knew anything. I guess I got what I should have expected. :)

well? We’re now three pages deep. What were you hoping to get? A few ChatGpt responses, Indigo conspiracies, and golden parachute speculation.

You should thank me for my service. I gave the only honest answer on here.

Youre arguing like FOs on reserve. Loud, pointless, and still two contract negotiations behind your peers. But, keep tickling your pickle for an NK merger

dracir1 12-16-2025 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981605)
well? We’re now three pages deep. What were you hoping to get? A few ChatGpt responses, Indigo conspiracies, and golden parachute speculation.

You should thank me for my service. I gave the only honest answer on here.

Youre arguing like FOs on reserve. Loud, pointless, and still two contract negotiations behind your peers. But, keep tickling your pickle for an NK merger

DAYUM Lina, you ok bro?

Every answer you give has venom. This is a place for humor ya know....

TBH, this is a time of celebration. Not sure if we're headed from frying pan to fire or something else but at least we know the devil we had that wasn't good enough is gone.

LinaPeru 12-16-2025 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3981608)
DAYUM Lina, you ok bro?

Every answer you give has venom. This is a place for humor ya know....

TBH, this is a time of celebration. Not sure if we're headed from frying pan to fire or something else but at least we know the devil we had that wasn't good enough is gone.

sorry dracir. Your right. I’ll have ChatGPT tone it down for me from this point on. Usually I have him turn the heat up.

Petpai 12-16-2025 10:30 AM

It makes me happy regardless of the reason. BB did a good job reducing cost and put f9 on a positive growth track. Unfortunately his personality and antagonistic behavior killed those gains by only providing lip service to issues and agitating work groups instead of building a culture that is pro f9, he destroyed any that existed.

Nobody knows the future, but my prediction (yes it is fun to go to a gypsy and see what the crystal ball says) and mine says a NK acquisition by Feb. F9 will trade stock in new company for right off most debt, and maybe a $400 mil cash payment.

With pilots taking a pay cut expect to see a joint offer of only a 25% increase bringing top pay to around $335. Will have a pass rate of 60% as most jr folks don't care about company long term, and just want raise now and signing bonus as they plan to lease ASAP anyway.

Yes my prediction could be as crazy as a FA wearing a mask, but who know.

dracir1 12-16-2025 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Petpai (Post 3981634)
Yes my prediction could be as crazy as a FA wearing a mask, but who know.

Which FA - an F9 one or some other airline?

VisionWings 12-16-2025 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Petpai (Post 3981634)
It makes me happy regardless of the reason. BB did a good job reducing cost and put f9 on a positive growth track. Unfortunately his personality and antagonistic behavior killed those gains by only providing lip service to issues and agitating work groups instead of building a culture that is pro f9, he destroyed any that existed.

Nobody knows the future, but my prediction (yes it is fun to go to a gypsy and see what the crystal ball says) and mine says a NK acquisition by Feb. F9 will trade stock in new company for right off most debt, and maybe a $400 mil cash payment.

With pilots taking a pay cut expect to see a joint offer of only a 25% increase bringing top pay to around $335. Will have a pass rate of 60% as most jr folks don't care about company long term, and just want raise now and signing bonus as they plan to lease ASAP anyway.

Yes my prediction could be as crazy as a FA wearing a mask, but who know.


f9 and Spirit is not gonna happen.

I think what’s likely to happen going forward is the same %25-40 total increase over a five year period about 9-12 months out from today.

minor changes to the carrier to “compete” we don’t have 400 million. We took out loans for the deliveries. We cannot afford retro pay. I expect $25-50,000 signing bonus when that contract goes in where the 50,000 is for the most senior pilots.

Dempsey is the new ceo. Indigo isn’t going to shake things up. They hand picked everyone so far. Maybe Barry got in trouble because he said we were gonna get WiFi and that wasn’t approved by Franke.

LinaPeru 12-16-2025 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by VisionWings (Post 3981652)
Maybe Barry got in trouble because he said we were gonna get WiFi and that wasn’t approved by Franke.

You think the WIFI is what did him in?

I would’ve told you it was the last 3-5 years of tanking financial performance. And then announcing the results in a bathroom stall.

Mozam 12-16-2025 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3981605)
well? We’re now three pages deep. What were you hoping to get? A few ChatGpt responses, Indigo conspiracies, and golden parachute speculation.

You should thank me for my service. I gave the only honest answer on here.

Youre arguing like FOs on reserve. Loud, pointless, and still two contract negotiations behind your peers. But, keep tickling your pickle for an NK merger


I think you wearing your mask 24/7 has deprived you of the oxygen you obviously need . Seek the help you need wackjob .

LinaPeru 12-16-2025 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mozam (Post 3981748)
I think you wearing your mask 24/7 has deprived you of the oxygen you obviously need . Seek the help you need wackjob .

I beg your pardon?

shuttledriver67 12-16-2025 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by BagMan (Post 3981215)
Indigo will buy Spirit for <500 Million Debt free.

You may be thinking that will not happen... Your Right.

It comes down to what Spirit owns (which as far as I can see is some office space in South Florida and a hotel) Beyond that the only value in in the whole airline intact. However I don't see anybody lining up to buy the Airline because any suiters could just spend the money and expand in to the spirit shadow without taking on the debt. So It all depends on how long it takes the people who control Spirit to recognize this as a stop loss situation. As it stands right now they are selling a couple of buildings and turn kay airline for well more than there worth. A few people have come over to kick the tires ,but nobody seems to see any value.

For what it's worth Frontier asset wise is in the same position we may not even own the headquarters building IDK

By the way it's not a hotel. The pilots contractually couldn't stay there. College dorm room is a better term for it. In reality it was a huge waste of money.

flyyguy88 12-16-2025 03:58 PM

The NO MERGE prediction
 
Can the experts please give their opinions:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...d=BingNewsSerp

Castle Bravo 12-16-2025 04:19 PM

Here it comes...

https://www.benzinga.com/m-a/25/12/4...pirit-aviation

Nacho Libre 12-16-2025 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 3981883)

Barry’s out and merger talks the next day. Newsworthy for sure.


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