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Warhawker 05-15-2026 04:20 PM

Do you agree with the NC recall?
 
A simple poll, yes or no.

shrsailplanes 05-15-2026 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Warhawker (Post 4036184)
A simple poll, yes or no.

I agree. This is a simple poll

I like BIG Bus 05-15-2026 05:19 PM

You guys are so pathetic. The recall gang is now sending out an “audit” of MP FLP not realizing his stewardship of our dues and devising a plan to get us back from a huge deficit that the previous group had us in. Nice try, you aren’t going to convince anyone he is trying to take advantage of FLP. Kind of ironic the person sending it around used FLP to boost their pay and picked up premium trips to do it. This coupled with the sad fact that the former NC chair, who resigned mind you, is cold calling people begging for signatures. All you guys are going to do if you happen to convince enough junior FOs with your BS is delay the process more. Everything is moving along nicely, ALPA national is on board and ready to assist. Stop just trying to get revenge so you can put the “club” back together.

Stayontarget 05-15-2026 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 4036212)
You guys are so pathetic. The recall gang is now sending out an “audit” of MP FLP not realizing his stewardship of our dues and devising a plan to get us back from a huge deficit that the previous group had us in. Nice try, you aren’t going to convince anyone he is trying to take advantage of FLP. Kind of ironic the person sending it around used FLP to boost their pay and picked up premium trips to do it. This coupled with the sad fact that the former NC chair, who resigned mind you, is cold calling people begging for signatures. All you guys are going to do if you happen to convince enough junior FOs with your BS is delay the process more. Everything is moving along nicely, ALPA national is on board and ready to assist. Stop just trying to get revenge so you can put the “club” back together.

Nice try Mike

fcoolaiddrinker 05-15-2026 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 4036212)
You guys are so pathetic. The recall gang is now sending out an “audit” of MP FLP not realizing his stewardship of our dues and devising a plan to get us back from a huge deficit that the previous group had us in. Nice try, you aren’t going to convince anyone he is trying to take advantage of FLP. Kind of ironic the person sending it around used FLP to boost their pay and picked up premium trips to do it. This coupled with the sad fact that the former NC chair, who resigned mind you, is cold calling people begging for signatures. All you guys are going to do if you happen to convince enough junior FOs with your BS is delay the process more. Everything is moving along nicely, ALPA national is on board and ready to assist. Stop just trying to get revenge so you can put the “club” back together.

Stewardship of dues. Funny. We got a refund. Yeah negotiations is the time to crack down on FPL. I remember his bad ideas of reducing the nc to two members. And giving volunteers a hard time with FPL during sec 6 when that was purposely increased substantially last round to prevent delays this round. That won’t delay to process. Absolutely clueless. Maybe listen to the UAL nc chair from last round explain how over 90% of the time is spend away from the table in that 5*5.

I like BIG Bus 05-15-2026 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 4036228)
Stewardship of dues. Funny. We got a refund. Yeah negotiations is the time to crack down on FPL. I remember his bad ideas of reducing the nc to two members. And giving volunteers a hard time with FPL during sec 6 when that was purposely increased substantially last round to prevent delays this round. That won’t delay to process. Absolutely clueless. Maybe listen to the UAL nc chair from last round explain how over 90% of the time is spend away from the table in that 5*5.

I doubt Mike has time to respond on this dumb forum. It’s always the same five blowhards that always respond on here. Your refund was from national. The locals were in a deficit. Are you guys going to use this “scientific” APC poll next to convince junior pilots, that don’t know the whole story, to sign your petition?

Stayontarget 05-15-2026 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 4036252)
I doubt Mike has time to respond on this dumb forum. It’s always the same five blowhards that always respond on here. Your refund was from national. The locals were in a deficit. Are you guys going to use this “scientific” APC poll next to convince junior pilots, that don’t know the whole story, to sign your petition?

Looks like the same number forming from the scientific poll. Imagine that.

Anyway. 34 million wasted by “your” team. Keep talking nincompoop.

SicBankArsonist 05-15-2026 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 4036252)
I doubt Mike has time to respond on this dumb forum. It’s always the same five blowhards that always respond on here. Your refund was from national. The locals were in a deficit. Are you guys going to use this “scientific” APC poll next to convince junior pilots, that don’t know the whole story, to sign your petition?

refund was not from national. AC gave the FFT pilots a million bucks a few months before the 1st merger spirit merger was announced….

fcoolaiddrinker 05-15-2026 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 4036252)
I doubt Mike has time to respond on this dumb forum. It’s always the same five blowhards that always respond on here. Your refund was from national. The locals were in a deficit. Are you guys going to use this “scientific” APC poll next to convince junior pilots, that don’t know the whole story, to sign your petition?

still does change the fact he wanted to reduce nc to two people. And crying about FPL during sec 6 is ridiculous. Guess what management is thrilled volunteers are potentially unprepared or not available. You’re helping management with that nonsense. Looking back the annual fly in with management should have been the big red flag.

I like BIG Bus 05-16-2026 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 4036257)
Looks like the same number forming from the scientific poll. Imagine that.

Name calling, how quaint. Knowing the furious five on here, they’ll just create new accounts and vote to create that outcome to bolster their point.



Now, one more time for the hard of hearing. MM resigning is the reason we are delayed now. We can’t function at all without an MEC chair. Why don’t we have one? 163 and 167 put up a grossly under qualified candidate just to block the vice chair from being voted in to keep the delay going. By the way they are the ones who chose to no show an MEC meeting supposedly to stop a roll call vote to unseat MM, who showed he didn’t have the capacity to lead this union by quitting several months later anyway. So who is delaying the process further and helping the company?


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 4036269)
Guess what management is thrilled volunteers are potentially unprepared or not available.

You mean we won’t get someone as keen and excellent as JL.Thank god! The last mediator told our Union leadership he was hurting our negotiations more than helping. He is also one of the negotiators of this crappy contract and the reason we have no leverage. And another quick reminder, our NC chair Quit too! Who does that help. The “club” really sticks together.



Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 4036269)
Looking back the annual fly in with management should have been the big red flag.

This is a pretty hefty accusation. Why don’t you make it official and Come out publicly to accuse him? Many people have thought MM and the gang were in the pocket of management with some of the crap that was agreed to. Some still do with all the blocking games going on by people who weren’t smart or clever enough to use these tactics on the company to get a good contract. But have no problem using it to create a rift in and delay in our union.


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