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corl737 08-15-2009 05:16 PM

Frontier pilot claims Republic T/A in hand!
 
In the USA Today's "Today In The Sky" section, this message was posted by a self-proclaimed 14-year Frontier pilot:
Fair Equitable (0 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 21h ago
Ed,
Republic and Frontier's Union have already agreed to a T/A (tentative agreement) . A fence is in place to protect the F9 Flying based on pilot career expectations of the company each pilot was hired into..... Obviously if you wee hired by Republic to fly an RJ your career expectations were different than those hired by Frontier and pay rates are protected for the next 5 years.

Seniority on equipment is protected until the last F9 pilot upgrades, Quality of Life issues... good. Schedules - Great, Benefits acceptable.... but most important...the FUTURE holds GROWTH.... Airbus is part of that and this is THE best part of the deal.... :)
Here's the link to the actual article and other comments. (His status with F9 was made in the message immediately preceding this on the blog.)

Republic wins bid for Frontier, beats Southwest - USATODAY.com

Any thoughts ...

FlyJSH 08-15-2009 05:39 PM

"Seniority on equipment is protected until the last F9 pilot upgrades"

For we ignorant folks.... this is different from a staple .. how?

LuvJockey 08-15-2009 05:45 PM

Although SWA and Frontiers pay differential was greater than Frontier and Republic's pay rates, this is why:

Originally Posted by corl737 (Post 662981)
Obviously if you wee hired by Republic to fly an RJ your career expectations were different than those hired by Frontier.[/INDENT]


johnso29 08-15-2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 662988)
"Seniority on equipment is protected until the last F9 pilot upgrades"

For we ignorant folks.... this is different from a staple .. how?


Because with a staple they would end up junior to every F9 pilot. Fences are quite common when two pilot groups merge. I think it's more then fair. Before RAH pilots had ZERO opportunity or expectation to fly an Airbus.

corl737 08-15-2009 05:50 PM

Guess I should have been more specific about my question and should have asked bluntly, is this true? Is there a T/A in hand? Based on the time the message was posted it seems the Republic T/A must have already been in writing before FAPA and SWAPA ever started talking.

xtreme 08-15-2009 06:06 PM

What happened to the whole thing about "any wholly owned subsidiary" is part if republic blah blah blah everybody was bragging about. Sounds like RAH guys got sold out. Good for F9 pilots atleast for now...

thepilotswife 08-15-2009 06:07 PM

I'm reading my husbands emails right now from FAPA (with his permission) and there is nothing in any of the correspondences that relates to this.

TillerEnvy 08-15-2009 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 663012)
What happened to the whole thing about "any wholly owned subsidiary" is part if republic blah blah blah everybody was bragging about. Sounds like RAH guys got sold out. Good for F9 pilots atleast for now...


Ummm, some news for you son, F9 is part of Republic. A fence doesn't change a thing kiddo. This form of jealousy is an ugly sight.

LuvJockey 08-15-2009 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 662997)
Because with a staple they would end up junior to every F9 pilot. Fences are quite common when two pilot groups merge. I think it's more then fair. Before RAH pilots had ZERO opportunity or expectation to fly an Airbus.

So just to be clear, if Republic had purchased SkyBus out of bankruptcy auction, their pilots should have had fenced seniority (AirBus Staple)?

johnso29 08-15-2009 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by LuvJockey (Post 663021)
So just to be clear, if Republic had purchased SkyBus out of bankruptcy auction, their pilots should have had fenced seniority (AirBus Staple)?


I don't understand your question.


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