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SeriousShirley 06-02-2019 11:30 PM

DEC: C5 vs PDT vs G7
 
Primary goal is to fly my tail off & build TPIC. I’ll be commuting regardless of base; BTDT so I know what to expect. Don’t mind being stuck on reserve so long as I’m likely to get used with some frequency. I would anticipate being picked up by a major or LLC within 5yrs, so flows / promised interviews are purely a backup plan.

GoJet DEC
PIC accumulation: Rapid
Flow: Spirit/Frontier - Slow
Sign-on Bonus: $50k
CA Reserve Length: ?
Commuter Clause: 4 hotels
Crediting for prior 121 puts pay 30-50% higher

CommutAir DEC
PIC accumulation: Rapid
Interview: United - eligible after 1000 PIC / 12mo
Sign-on Bonus: $45k
CA Reserve Length: 4mo - Used nearly daily (short on CAs)
Commuter Clause: 4 hotels

Piedmont DEC
PIC accumulation: Slow - training delays
Flow: AA - 5yrs
Sign-on Bonus: $45k
CA Reserve Length: ?
Commuter Clause: 2 hotels

Anything I’m missing that would work in favor of / detract from any specific offer?

ninerdriver 06-03-2019 12:56 AM

The GoJet flow to Frontier prevents Frontier from accepting your application off the street. If Frontier is a potential landing spot, then GoJet is not for you unless you don't mind waiting twenty years to flow.

You almost certainly will not flow in five years at PDT. Check out their threads. It might not be as long as the worst estimates, but five years is super optimistic.

SeriousShirley 06-03-2019 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2830581)
The GoJet flow to Frontier prevents Frontier from accepting your application off the street. If Frontier is a potential landing spot, then GoJet is not for you unless you don't mind waiting twenty years to flow.

You almost certainly will not flow in five years at PDT. Check out their threads. It might not be as long as the worst estimates, but five years is super optimistic.

Not concerned re:Frontier.

Thanks for the clarification re: PDT. I had read conflicting accounts on the flow, but wasn’t sure what would be accurate. Not something I’m counting on regardless of where I end up at this point, but good to have clearer information.

McGpilot 06-03-2019 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2830581)
The GoJet flow to Frontier prevents Frontier from accepting your application off the street. If Frontier is a potential landing spot, then GoJet is not for you unless you don't mind waiting twenty years to flow.

You almost certainly will not flow in five years at PDT. Check out their threads. It might not be as long as the worst estimates, but five years is super optimistic.

I may be wrong but this is not what I have been told by both GoJet and Frontier.

ninerdriver 06-03-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by McGpilot (Post 2830669)
I may be wrong but this is not what I have been told by both GoJet and Frontier.

If you want to get technical about it, Frontier will not hire TSH pilots OTS.

Compass was the most recent ones to get the F9 flow... check their thread.

SeriousShirley 06-03-2019 08:46 AM

Has anyone taken G7 up on the Optional Leave after Indoc offer?
Any issues with getting that approved?

From the website:
“Earn up to 6 months early seniority (Come to one day of Indoc training, receive a seniority number, and then be placed on personal leave for a maximum of 180 days)”

cursesRedBaron 06-03-2019 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by SeriousShirley (Post 2830730)
Has anyone taken G7 up on the Optional Leave after Indoc offer?
Any issues with getting that approved?

From the website:
“Earn up to 6 months early seniority (Come to one day of Indoc training, receive a seniority number, and then be placed on personal leave for a maximum of 180 days)”

I know of several guys who did this. It's basically just early seniority. No pay while on 'personal leave'. But, yes, you can do it...however, DECs do not qualify.
Reserve is typically only 1-2 months. They hire DECs constantly...some in every class.

cursesRedBaron 06-03-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by McGpilot (Post 2830669)
I may be wrong but this is not what I have been told by both GoJet and Frontier.

Frontier rep told us at G7 directly that: Once the flow agreement was signed, there was no other way from G7 to Frontier, except through the flow.
No idea on how long that will take you, as I'm not even remotely interested.

SeriousShirley 06-03-2019 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron (Post 2830755)
I know of several guys who did this. It's basically just early seniority. No pay while on 'personal leave'. But, yes, you can do it...however, DECs do not qualify.
Reserve is typically only 1-2 months. They hire DECs constantly...some in every class.

Thanks. TSA offered it to all new hires, wasn’t sure about G7.

too low gear 06-10-2019 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by SeriousShirley (Post 2830730)
Has anyone taken G7 up on the Optional Leave after Indoc offer?
Any issues with getting that approved?

From the website:
“Earn up to 6 months early seniority (Come to one day of Indoc training, receive a seniority number, and then be placed on personal leave for a maximum of 180 days)”

I was told in my interview that I was not eligible due to not being current 121. I've been out of 121 for almost 4 years now. FYI, this was a DEC interview.


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