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too low gear 01-31-2020 07:10 PM

There was one individual who was known to be unfair, and an ********* in orals and had a high failure rate. But to be fair, the guys I know failed it were either unprepared, or just weren't going to make it anyway. I hear this individual is no longer doing orals, but I can't confirm that. YOU need to study and put in the work. If you don't, that's on you.

Airline training is tough, and people who don't know or haven't been though it before can easily get behind and overwhelmed.

yoke jerker 02-04-2020 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2946362)
Not sure what his story is... all I know is I’m skeptical of someone who starts a thread and never replies. The 75% fail thing didn’t smell right either. Sounds like the typical failure rate there.

Many people upset on our side to lose a base too (EWR).

so EWR closes . Everyone move to GSO ? Is that its senior ?

Shrek 02-04-2020 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by too low gear (Post 2968733)
There was one individual who was known to be unfair, and an ********* in orals and had a high failure rate. But to be fair, the guys I know failed it were either unprepared, or just weren't going to make it anyway. I hear this individual is no longer doing orals, but I can't confirm that. YOU need to study and put in the work. If you don't, that's on you.

Airline training is tough, and people who don't know or haven't been though it before can easily get behind and overwhelmed.

Chester the Molester ?

jcool734 02-13-2020 12:53 PM

is the trainging AQP BAsed

paulhood 02-13-2020 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 2976293)
is the trainging AQP BAsed

Initial training is not AQP, but you will later transition to AQP training after 12 months.

jcool734 02-14-2020 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 2976325)
Initial training is not AQP, but you will later transition to AQP training after 12 months.


So what the difference in the layout from AQP. Ive been told just try to be in a aqp based airline.

paulhood 02-15-2020 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 2976951)
So what the difference in the layout from AQP. Ive been told just try to be in a aqp based airline.

Basically in non AQP, you get training and a regular check ride, if you are receiving a type the maneuvers can not be repeated, in an AQP environment you are trained and evaluated as a crew, is more a trained to proficiency provided that you can complete all the maneuvers within the time allotted including the redo's. So GoJet has AQP, but just not on initial training, at least not yet.

Papa Bear 02-24-2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Shrek (Post 2970788)
Chester the Molester ?

super fair guy...if you suck then he will fail you...if you come prepared and know your stuff. NP. Had him many times...got scolded a couple times.
Made me a better pilot. I’m all for tuff check rides.

Spent 5 yrs at blowjet 4 as CA...no pink slips

flyerforhire 03-09-2020 01:42 PM

My advice for all new hires: I have two types, and two positions as a 121 captain. I have one checkride failure from pre-Private through to today, and no oral failures. It is great to work with others and to drill procedures and checklists with others. But, to me, you do need to be able to train and prep on your own. Those who are unprepared, or those who just aren't trying like they should, can bring you down if you hang out with them too much. My sim partner for my jet type was a walking trainwreck. I got to the point where I told him that he was voice activated. He should not do anything unless I command it. I know that people can be unhappy to be "sandbagged" for the checkride when they get someone else other than their sim partner flying with them. But, I was kissing the ground on that one. To prep for tests, I would drill myself on questions for the oral, and chair fly consistently for the checkride. Establish a sustainable rhythm for yourself that keeps you sharp, but doesn't let you get slack, but also doesn't burn you out. Lock into that and keep it up until you are signed off to be a line pilot. Also remember, it isn't over until IOE is done, and your paperwork is all in. While wrapping up my jet IOE, I had a Fed Ride one direction, and the other candidate on that flight flew back. He didn't make it on his Fed Ride back, and didn't make it later on his second attempt. He went back to FO. It isn't over until it's over. Stay sharp and stay ready throughout the entire process.

Aikhme 03-10-2020 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 2992767)
My advice for all new hires: I have two types, and two positions as a 121 captain. I have one checkride failure from pre-Private through to today, and no oral failures. It is great to work with others and to drill procedures and checklists with others. But, to me, you do need to be able to train and prep on your own. Those who are unprepared, or those who just aren't trying like they should, can bring you down if you hang out with them too much. My sim partner for my jet type was a walking trainwreck. I got to the point where I told him that he was voice activated. He should not do anything unless I command it. I know that people can be unhappy to be "sandbagged" for the checkride when they get someone else other than their sim partner flying with them. But, I was kissing the ground on that one. To prep for tests, I would drill myself on questions for the oral, and chair fly consistently for the checkride. Establish a sustainable rhythm for yourself that keeps you sharp, but doesn't let you get slack, but also doesn't burn you out. Lock into that and keep it up until you are signed off to be a line pilot. Also remember, it isn't over until IOE is done, and your paperwork is all in. While wrapping up my jet IOE, I had a Fed Ride one direction, and the other candidate on that flight flew back. He didn't make it on his Fed Ride back, and didn't make it later on his second attempt. He went back to FO. It isn't over until it's over. Stay sharp and stay ready throughout the entire process.

Bottom line is, if you put the effort in, then should be no problems.


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