How often are they running new hire training currently ?

2 classes a month. Anywhere to 25-35 people in each class


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How long is it taking to get thru all the training needed before IOE ? A couple months I’m assuming .

At this very moment. You can expect 2 months off after your checkride. We had a lot of Check Airmen leave. But we also have a lot of new check Airmen waiting for their letters from the FAa


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This is pretty accurate, if a bit conservative. I’m currently sitting my twelfth week post checkride, with some classmates getting IOE assignments. I got my observation flights done Sept 19th, so it’s been 5 weeks since I last saw the inside of the jet.

But to answer your previous question Jptaviation, there’s 2 weeks basic Indoc, 3 weeks systems ground, a couple days prep and oral check if you’re eligible, then about 2 weeks of SIMs before checkride. The footprint non-stop would be 8 weeks, however there are breaks between the big phases I just listed. As the year has progressed, the breaks have been stretched or possibly restructured. For example I went straight from Indoc to Systems but I understand a week off has been put there for classes nowadays. I had 2 weeks between oral check and SIMs, but last I heard there was 3 weeks for other pilot classes. My training footprint ran from mid May to the first week of August, nearly 12 weeks in total.

Did you recieve pay those months you waited or you were not in training ?

you will receive min guarantee.

So 12 weeks total to finish training but how long until you finish a IOE ? How many weeks or months of waiting after training ?

Today makes 12 weeks of wait for me, post checkride, still no IOE assignment.

The word from training management is that they need to prioritize Captain upgrades and DECs regardless of class date. A tentative expectation of getting to the FOs who are approaching consolidation deadlines is two more weeks. They acknowledged it’s a problem but are in shorter supply of Captains than FOs.

The COVID year really jacked with the pilot labor market, which was already bad to begin with. Everyone was locked in their current position for several months beyond normal, if they weren’t furloughed. So not only are Captains leaving quicker than they can be replaced now that Majors are hiring again, but FOs who were eligible to upgrade throughout 2020 were not able to upgrade due to stagnant growth. Those guys continued to accrue total and turbine time, and they are highly competitive to move to LLCs. I don’t blame pilots who are not bothering with the upgrade process and subjecting themselves to junior Captain status when they can just maintain currency while they wait for a class date at an LLC and go make more money as an FO on bigger metal.

Management says they are attempting to bring on new check airmen to relieve the bottleneck, but of course that process involves FAA approval so it’s not an instant thing. For the moment they are doing the best they can, or so they assure us.

We are all getting paid min guarantee to sit here, which is better than nothing but not nearly as much as we’d like. Honestly the biggest concern at this point is how rusty we’ll be when we finally get our assignments. Most of us are still doing some maintenance-studying on flows, limitations and other SOPs, but there is no amount of chair flying that will help with landing or stick and rudder type skills.

How many warnings were you guys given about this specific regional “airline”? Hundreds of posts on how this management treats its employees once they “welcome” you through their trap doors.

You can’t blame anyone but yourselves for deciding to try this crap show. The good news is your life and career will only get better from here once you finally bounce. You played with fire and got burned.