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fly4michelle 02-01-2011 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Positive_Rate (Post 940007)
...in before the lock...


What does that mean?

johnso29 02-01-2011 08:52 AM

The key is that HK has to find a home for these airplanes.

G2TT 02-01-2011 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by fly4michelle (Post 940095)
What does that mean?

Absolutely nothing worthwhile.

gearcrankr 02-01-2011 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by fly4michelle (Post 940095)
What does that mean?

Typically any GoJet related thread gets locked by the mods. Positive Rate manages to get a post in before the "lock". He is pretty consistant I might add.

Phuz 02-01-2011 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by odog1121 (Post 940046)
Why do you guys always think pilot cost alone is what determines where airplanes go. We are but a small part of the equation.

His reasoning is quite valid actually. If TSH dangles a very shiny carot such as this, the GoJet group has a demonstrated ability to slash their costs so low that they make up a LARGE part of the equation. Its not just wages mind you, GoJet has the worst work rules in the industry.

Spoilers 02-01-2011 10:10 AM

And who are they going to fly these MRJs for? Huh?

Phuz 02-01-2011 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 940153)
And who are they going to fly these MRJs for? Huh?

Thats the million dollar question. Nobody has room in their scope currently for it - unless he wants to be Frontier express..

Its also just as likely that Mitsubishi desperately needs to show interest in its unbuilt/unproven airplane so they are willing to allow a 'firm' order without any cash up front. Hulas gets to dangle a carot and mitsu gets to say 'look we are selling planes'.

RiddleEagle18 02-01-2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 940153)
And who are they going to fly these MRJs for? Huh?

TSH gets to dangle the carrot and then sell off the delivery slots later...

MatchPoint 02-01-2011 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 940158)
Thats the million dollar question. Nobody has room in their scope currently for it - unless he wants to be Frontier express..

Its also just as likely that Mitsubishi desperately needs to show interest in its unbuilt/unproven airplane so they are willing to allow a 'firm' order without any cash up front. Hulas gets to dangle a carot and mitsu gets to say 'look we are selling planes'.

We'll they could put the MRJ70 into operation with UAL since their scope allows for an unlimited number of 70 seaters, there’s just the Block Hour restriction which Tilton doesn’t give a crap about since he’s already violated it. As for the MRJ 90, unless they plan to start operating independently there’s nowhere to put them.

It’s a pipe dream if they plan to operate them for UAL seeing these things won’t be on property till 2014 at the earliest which is long after UALPA/CALPA’s JCBA will be finalized and I guarantee it locks in a cap and might restrict them over time.

Herbie 02-01-2011 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by fly4michelle (Post 939999)
GoJet started a class of 16 in January and a class of 20 in February with classes to follow each month for several months. Something is up.

Do I have to be the first to point this out. This is only a paper airplane at this point, so any hiring GoJet is doing right now has absolutly nothing to do with the MRJ. This is just another bargaining chip for the whipsaw game. And at this point, TSA is recalling and retraining more pilots per month than GoJet is hiring, so some of it probably has to do with attrition.


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