TSA or GoJet for a 1500tt pilot
 

i am between these two airlines....i havent read much good about gojet...anything changed there lately? i will have to commute from s florida, so any bad experience there from gojet pilot w other airlines like declined jump seat privileges??
help highly appreciated!!!!

I would steer clear of Blojet. They are an alter ego airline created to circumvent scope/labor contract.

You may have issues commuting for this reason.

By you accepting employment there you will be aiding in its survival.

just go to TSA. end of story

This really shouldn't even be a comparison unless you live in base with a rich wife or you want to fly a "heavy" regional jet.

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As your career advances, you will learn that the two most important things to look for in a job are the contract and seniority. It's not about what aircraft you will be flying or who has the biggest signing bonus. Study the contracts and rate at which you gain seniority for anywhere you are considering applying to. The decision will be obvious.

Is this a serious question???

TSA hands down

Turbinepic nice specific advice. Anybody else more specific why not gojet?

Compass......

I used to work for GoJet. Given the choice, TSA.

That said, any reason why you've narrowed yourself down to just these two airlines?

Cancellation pay is one huge specific reason why TSA over Gojet.. Honestly, it would be easier to list the reasons why you should work for Gojet....I can't think of any.

I hv a place to stay in kord. That's why I am limiting myself and kord is a junior base for GoJet. Plus they offer sign up bonus, help w commuting. Any other easy commutes from s florida????

TSA. No question.

I have been told that GoJet has 95% guaranteed pay. Anybody to elaborate on that? Can that compare with the cancelation pay??
Also I am thinking if I get upgraded in 18 months like they are saying the capt pay is survivable. Vs sitting right seat at any other regional.

No commute from Florida is easy.

Out of TSA & GoJet...TSA without a doubt. Two other companies that I would recommend before either one SkyWest & Compass...if you don't have to commute that is.

If you have a place in Chicago go to SkyWest. It's a junior domicile & a great company.

TSA has an ORD base. Also has an IAD base, which a lot of pilots who live in Florida commute to.

TSA. Why would to go to GoJet? They brag about getting 900s but have ZERO public information to back it up. No press releases, nothing. Delta says they haven't heard anything about it.

TheFly I would like Skywest a lot but many many years to upgrade is hard to swallow. On the other hand basing the decision where to work on the upgrade times is even a less intelligent move.
Anyone hear anything about 95% guarantee pay from GoJet?

I have friends that work at both and that have worked at both... I would pick TSA hands down. GoJet not having any cancellation pay will hit your bank account hard. And DO NOT believe the recruiters who tell you they do in fact have cancellation pay, because they don't. They will lie to your face to get you to do anything to sign the piece of paper. That is a huge red flag for any regional airline. The "quick upgrade" at GoJet doesn't exist now and hasn't existed for a few years. How do I know? I have friends who have been in the right seat there for 3+ years. At a crappy company. With a joke of a contract. Who have to constantly fight to get pay that is owed to them. That's right, they have to fight for what is rightfully theirs every single month. A friend of mine who quit GoJet a few months back got his final check from the company. Instead of paying him his 3 year FO rate for his credited hours, he was paid at 1st year FO rate at minimum credit. What a joke... Run, don't walk from GoJet.

That being said, TSA is the better choice of the 2 places you are considering. More growth and a decent contract. But I would caution you to carefully consider your options... Literally every regional is hiring right now, and in my opinion, there are better options out there.

your opinion? ...that statement only becomes true if you live in one of your bases...

other than that...TSA, PSA, Compass or even Piedmont

but for the love of the spaghetti monster...don't go over to GoJet. (in the school house everyone will ask you why and you won't have a good reason ever)

Not a single positive tread on GoJet. I mean is there any worst place GoJet than????

Our upgrade time is 4 years and falling fast. I would caution you chasing "quick upgrades".

Republic.....

I would go to Piedmont, they even have crew meals.

TheFly how long before i can hold a line at skywest?

Gojet isn't that bad, people on these forums are still super butt hurt over something 5hat happened in 2005. As of now it looks like the contract negotiations are going well something on the table by June hopefully.

While the past a Gojet has been rough, talk to a current pilot or two first.

I promise you, that what happened in 05' is not the reason any of us are saying not to go to GoJet....ok if your other option is Republic...consider GoJet

At ORD or MSP pretty much right out of training.

The upgrade time at SkyWest is a 4 years, and falling quickly, there is a lot of movement right now. ORD is their 2nd most Jr. domicile and has a lot of good trips, and diverse flying.

It would only be a month or two to hold a line in ORD with SkyWest.

If not SkyWest, choose TSA over BlowJet, not even a question.

No one cares about 2005 anymore and that isn't why people are telling new guys to avoid GoJet like the plague. It's a horrible company that treats its employees poorly. That's why the OP shouldn't go to GoJet. And if he wants opinions of why he shouldn't go there, I can put him in touch with current and former employees who will advise him against it. But after this thread I don't know if he'll need any more convincing.

How about SKW, TSA and Gojet?
Talking to people working at g7, things are not that bad. Short reserve, $8000 bonus, 4 free hotels/month for commuters, 18 months to upgrade and more planes coming and yes there is a press release about it: http://m.atwonline.com/airframes/goj...delta-regional
New contract almost finalized and with cx pay (this part I will believe when I see). So, G7 Seems to have become a regional just like any other regional.
I would love to hear more objective opinions from G7 pilots.
What I heard about SKW, great company, but no much flying on reserve and a lot of complaining lately. Upgrade at 4 years and maybe falling?
I have a good idea about these 3 offers but want to see some objective feedback.

With TSA more than doubling it's fleet size, and having a better contract I see this as a no brainer. And I'd get the Hell out of Florida...there's no easy commute from it's southern tip.

Not much flying on reserve? I know a pretty senior guy in my base who bid reserve for weekends off in Feb and easily broke guarantee. If flying is what you want I can only imagine what junior folks are experiencing. Not to mention are people even on reserve more than a month or two?

Thanks for the feedback Face! And yes, I want to fly!

Let me know if you have any questions.

If you have a chance to go to BlowJet or another airline, always choose the other airline.

If your only place to go is BlowJet, then you need to get out of aviation. My advise is the same no matter what they pay.

This is your career we are talking about.

I'm not a big fan of TSA either.

After my last flight at Gojet, the Chief Pilot asked me how I was going to get home. I told him I was going to catch a jumpseat. He said I might enjoy taking a train. Turns out they had already ended my jumpseat. They had also ended my medical coverage and that of my family several weeks before when they found out I would be leaving. I didn't know that till I started getting all the unpaid bills. You only leave once but they do this 10 times a month. They have a system and it saves them a lot of money. I had to pay the medical coverage for 2 months they should have covered, cost me 1596 per month totaling 3192. My last few months of pay were all short. That 8000 they offer ends up not being much after you take into account what you lose at the end. And with no cancelation pay you lose another 1000 per month each month you are there.
I am not complaining, I did enjoy the 7 hour train ride home. It had internet although it was intermittent.

I think leaving "When leaving GoJet " has been beat to death on this forum...there is also an exit strategy at other crap wholes like EK. Not that GoJet is as bad as EK...but they at least treat the flight attendants the same :(

TSA does have a better contract.

Do this ...pick one
Get your butt flying logging every hour burning jetA you can...

While doing this begin applying to Every Single Airline you might want to work for...every month update on time...go to WIA, open houses, road shows...meet people shake hands get business cards...

When you do have the time you will have two years of applying under your belt...leave ASAP.