Originally Posted by thevagabond

The fact that right wing religous simpletons who deny science keep bringing the whole issue back to a debate over whether or not it's really hapoening isn't the left's doing. The left and the othe reasonable people have moved on and are trying to mitigate the harmful effects of modern society on our home. We all know the Earth has been warmer. Well, at least those of us who aren't too far out on the right claiming it was all created six thousand years ago. Were there internal combustion engines and coal powered energy plants during the last age of warming? NASA knows that wasn't it and in fact it was because the Earth was closer to the sun. It does that. It's not a fixed distance in its orbit. But that spatial change closer to the sun doesn't explain our current rise in surface temperatures. Neither does water vapor in the atmosphere or any other natural cause Fox News spouts forth. But the centuries long lingering effects of CO2 surely does account for it. CO2 levels which have risen by over 25% since the '70s and which keep accumulating at exponentially greater rates in the atmosphere every year absolutely explains why everything is warming. And justified concern over the unknown long term impact of all that CO2 isn't a political issue at all. Although it is humorous and not surprising that most of the deniers are to the right of the political spectrum. It's all just part of the Great Pumpkin's plan. We'll be fine. All ahead full.

Originally Posted by skywatch

You used the magic phrase "man made global warming" rather than just global warming.

Originally Posted by Mesabah

Maybe you should research what is required to slow the trend of warming by the required 1.5 degrees, hint every airline would liquidate. Are you ready to be unemployed, as there is no half measure as the permafrost CO2 release will be exponential. The reality of left wing politics is control, and money, they are offering zero environmental solutions. They just want to get paid for a nothingburger.

Originally Posted by thevagabond

Right on! This is the whole hard cold truth to quote one of my favorite movie characters. It's why Gore said it was an inconvenient truth. I absolutely acknowledge my role in the madness of it all and struggle with that. I disagree with you though about it being a control issue. The people I personally know at the front fighting this battle are doing it out of love for our planet and for their fellow man. I don't care what side of the politcal aisle you're on. What could possibly be wrong with those reasons?

Originally Posted by badflaps

You really need to see how much money Gore has in carbon trades.

Originally Posted by skywatch

You used the magic phrase "man made global warming" rather than just global warming. The overwhelming cause of global warming is water vapor in the air. "fossil fuels" are a distant distant second as far as green house gases go. Only considering "man-made" impacts seems to me to considerably skew the position, and seems like a statistical manipulation made to advance an agenda rather than remain objective.

Originally Posted by Mesabah

It's at least a $10 billion dollar pay day for him if carbon credits are passed. This relies on solar, and wind investments primarily as well, with nuclear, he loses everything.



The Democrat elite, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Buffet, etc, are buying up all Generation IV nuclear power projects through TerraPower, and shelving them to prevent any chance of solving CC. They just bought China's breeder reactor projects last year.

Originally Posted by Mesabah

Maybe you should research what is required to slow the trend of warming by the required 1.5 degrees, hint every airline would liquidate. Are you ready to be unemployed, as there is no half measure as the permafrost CO2 release will be exponential. The reality of left wing politics is control, and money, they are offering zero environmental solutions. They just want to get paid for a nothingburger.