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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 2373028)
Uh hate to tell you but the link between climate change and human activity is not definitive. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 2373028)
Uh hate to tell you but the link between climate change and human activity is not definitive. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 2373042)
EXACTLY like the link between mainstream scientific evidence and the fact that the earth is a sphere is not definitive.
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Climate change is a lot like religion; some people cannot be told that there is a possibility there is not a god while others are either open to the idea but not convinced, or don't believe at all. The climate changes all the time (think land bridge up in Alaska and how it disappeared long before man could have an effect), and data is manipulated much like statistics depending on the users intended result. Look at the news today - it is undeniable that various media outlets pick and choose what they want to get the biggest headlines. Scientists and pro-green initiatives do the same thing, too. To deny that is no different than an intolerant Bible or Koran thumper (or whatever floats your boat). It's not as finite as 2+2=4. The answer is more like 4-ish. My opinion.
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Originally Posted by Fletch727
(Post 2373060)
Climate change is a lot like religion; some people cannot be told that there is a possibility there is not a god while others are either open to the idea but not convinced, or don't believe at all. The climate changes all the time (think land bridge up in Alaska and how it disappeared long before man could have an effect), and data is manipulated much like statistics depending on the users intended result. Look at the news today - it is undeniable that various media outlets pick and choose what they want to get the biggest headlines. Scientists and pro-green initiatives do the same thing, too. To deny that is no different than an intolerant Bible or Koran thumper (or whatever floats your boat). It's not as finite as 2+2=4. The answer is more like 4-ish. My opinion.
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 2372880)
On a UAL flight a few years ago, there was a near-passenger mutiny. It was on an East Coast-Europe trans-Atlantic flight. One of the pax saw the routing on the IFE, and knew the pilot was lost, or someone had taken over the plane, because they weren't going straight East to Europe. Instead, they were flying North, towards Maine and Canada. The pax asked a FA about it, and didn't get a response that he liked. He ended up convincing a LOT of the passengers that something was very wrong in the cockpit. The Capt had to spend a good amount of time on the PA explaining flat maps vs. a globe, and how the shortest route looks like a curve on a flat map...
If everyone had Ms. Eagan, like I did, for Grade 7 and 8 Geography, this thread wouldn't exist. |
The tobacco industry had no trouble finding scientists to testify there was no proof it was harmful
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2373064)
No one is saying climate change is only a function of man-made influence. The argument is, man's injection of green house gases is causing an unnatural change in climate and that change is going to happen rapidly and be devastating to the current human-nature dynamic.
That's it.......from this point forward no one is allowed to fart! |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2373056)
Gravity isn't definitive but I'm I'm pretty confident that if I walk out of a 2nd story window, I'm going to hit Earth.
C-c-can't we just all get along? :) |
The whole thing bends around carbon trades at the Mercantile Exchange.. Big bucks.
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