CNN: Staggering pilot shortage in US
07-29-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
Every "OMG Pilot Shortage!" article is the same. Tldr; Horizon cnxd so many flights, low pay for decades, Colgan crash, ATP rule, something about unions, slightly better pay now, no solutions discussed, copy paste for the next article.
07-29-2017, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
I believed there was a shortage at the regional level, then Envoy ran 4 new hire classes in July at 25 a pop. 100 a month isn't a shortage.
07-29-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Every single person I graduated with got offers from every regional they applied to. Some have failed out of 2+ regionals and are *still* getting offers. I've heard of guys on 100+ hours of IOE. If that's not a shortage I don't know what is. The bottom of the pool is getting sucked dry, how many of that class of 100 are the sludge?
07-29-2017, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Upgauging every airplane at a regional or going back to the 90s when anything bigger than a prop was flown by mainline would disappear this "shortage" instantly.
07-29-2017, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiPilot
07-30-2017, 07:21 AM
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Let's look at the shortage. Are the legacies hurting? No. Are the legacies lowering soft requirements like a college degree? No.
It must be the regionals then. The WO carriers that have a flow are not hurting. Yes, there may be some lateral move folks but a large percentage are new. Horizon is having a hard time. Alaska Airlines refuses to create a real flow, because Alaska believes that there are better pilots willing to come to Alaska. So there's no shortage there either.
So where is the shortage. Folks aren't willing to drop tens of thousands of dollars on a career as precarious as aviation. Who made it this way? The airlines did. The small 135 companies have lived off the scraps for years and now there are fewer extra folks around.
What everyone fails to mention is that a pilot can go from zero to ATP in 2-3 years. This is with no reduction to the minimal standards today. So why does the industry decry that there's a shortage. It's simply that they don't want to create a package that's attractive enough to get people to come.
It must be the regionals then. The WO carriers that have a flow are not hurting. Yes, there may be some lateral move folks but a large percentage are new. Horizon is having a hard time. Alaska Airlines refuses to create a real flow, because Alaska believes that there are better pilots willing to come to Alaska. So there's no shortage there either.
So where is the shortage. Folks aren't willing to drop tens of thousands of dollars on a career as precarious as aviation. Who made it this way? The airlines did. The small 135 companies have lived off the scraps for years and now there are fewer extra folks around.
What everyone fails to mention is that a pilot can go from zero to ATP in 2-3 years. This is with no reduction to the minimal standards today. So why does the industry decry that there's a shortage. It's simply that they don't want to create a package that's attractive enough to get people to come.
07-30-2017, 10:39 AM
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07-30-2017, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiPilot
Post all the articles you want.
Still not true.
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