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Old 11-07-2018 | 02:36 PM
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On the way back from San Diego to DC on Alaska Air, I thought to myself "how do the pilots and control towers communicate, when they don't speak the same language?"

This is especially relevant in conversations that involve more than just "clear for landing on runway #1"


What about that recent Boeing crash, where they had to "talk through" a rather complicated issue?


I've asked this to a bunch of non-pilot people, and none of us could answer.
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Old 11-07-2018 | 02:50 PM
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English. In principal, English is the universal aviation language. In reality, English is not “USA English”.
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Old 11-07-2018 | 02:50 PM
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English is Now the Mandated International Language of Aviation

The International Civil Aviation Organisation has decreed that from 1 January 2008 all Air Traffic Controllers and Flight Crew Members engaged in or in contact with international flights must be proficient in the English language as a general spoken medium and not simply have a proficiency in standard ICAO Radio Telephony Phraseology.

This has important implications for all aircrew and controllers. Those who do not have proficiency must acquire it by that date or risk removal from international flight routes.


English is the now the mandated international Language of Aviation
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Old 11-07-2018 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GUFN
English. In principal, English is the universal aviation language. In reality, English is not “USA English”.
Nor is Pirate English
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Old 11-07-2018 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dilogdp
I've asked this to a bunch of non-pilot people, and none of us could answer.
That's because they're not pilots. Or controllers.

If you want to know a pilot-question, ask a pilot.

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On the way back from San Diego to DC on Alaska Air, I thought to myself "how do the pilots and control towers communicate, when they don't speak the same language?"
Pilot's and controllers do speak the same language.

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What about that recent Boeing crash, where they had to "talk through" a rather complicated issue?
What's complicated? Pilot has an emergency, pilot handles emergency. Pilot declares emergency, tells controller what he wants. If he's busy, he ignores the controller and flies the aircraft.

The controller isn't a pilot-expert who is going to sort the problem out for the pilot. That's not his job; he's neither qualified, nor able. If the pilot needs something, he will state what he needs. There's no complicated discussion to be had. There's nothing to "talk through."
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Old 11-13-2018 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dilogdp
How do pilots and tower communicate?

Carrier pigeon.
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Old 11-16-2018 | 02:06 PM
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Old 11-19-2018 | 03:09 AM
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Was that a light flash from tower or a reflection from the setting sun?

Looks clear, I think I’ll land anyway.
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Old 11-19-2018 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
That's because they're not pilots. Or controllers.

If you want to know a pilot-question, ask a pilot.



Pilot's and controllers do speak the same language.



What's complicated? Pilot has an emergency, pilot handles emergency. Pilot declares emergency, tells controller what he wants. If he's busy, he ignores the controller and flies the aircraft.

The controller isn't a pilot-expert who is going to sort the problem out for the pilot. That's not his job; he's neither qualified, nor able. If the pilot needs something, he will state what he needs. There's no complicated discussion to be had. There's nothing to "talk through."
Seriously. You're the absolute worst.
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Old 11-19-2018 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Seriously. You're the absolute worst.
As opposed to a relative wurst?

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