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Old 02-15-2021, 06:37 AM
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France wants to ban short domestic flights

BY MICHAELA WIEGEL, PARIS
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Flights from Paris to Lyon or Bordeaux will no longer be available for the French in the future. The government wants to ban all domestic flights if the destination can be reached in two and a half hours by train.
In the midst of the corona pandemic, the French government wants to advance its announced green offensive with an ambitious bill. The measures approved by the government cabinet on Wednesday include a ban on short-haul flights, provided the destination can also be reached by train within two and a half hours. Flights from Paris to Bordeaux, Lyon or Nantes may no longer be allowed from summer 2021.Environment Minister Barbara Pompili also announced on Thursday that the airport company Aéroports de Paris would not build the planned fourth terminal at Charles de Gaulle Roissy Airport. With these two steps France wants to severely restrict domestic air traffic and give preference to rail traffic. The proposal to ban domestic flights goes back to the citizens' convention that President Macron convened after weeks of “yellow vests” protests against the CO2 tax. In the citizens' convention, 150 French people selected after a complicated lottery procedure had drawn up 149 recommendations for reducing carbon dioxide emissions.
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Or it will reopen international flights direct to more of the "burgs & villes" in France as people can no longer connect through CDG. Not a fan Paris, so I'd take me some Bordeaux, Lyon and Dijon layovers.
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I like your optimism.
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Or it will reopen international flights direct to more of the "burgs & villes" in France as people can no longer connect through CDG. Not a fan Paris, so I'd take me some Bordeaux, Lyon and Dijon layovers.
I hope to are right, and I think the XLR would be the perfect plane for that if we changed any of our NEO orders...but I think it’s far more likely they will just be routed through AMS instead
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You can take a train in Europe.

Not here, and there's no way that's changing during any of our careers (or probably ever).

We're much more likely to see wholesale deployment of SAF, and eventually radical new aircraft designs to improve efficiency and minimize carbon.
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We should have let the Germans keep France.
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Or it will reopen international flights direct to more of the "burgs & villes" in France as people can no longer connect through CDG. Not a fan Paris, so I'd take me some Bordeaux, Lyon and Dijon layovers.
Until the French govt declares that all international flights have to land in CDG
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Originally Posted by SideSticker View Post
I like your optimism.
LOL, more wishful thinking.

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I hope to are right, and I think the XLR would be the perfect plane for that if we changed any of our NEO orders...but I think it’s far more likely they will just be routed through AMS instead
I'd be perfectly happy with more AMS layovers...much better than CDG. I could see a situation like you mention with the XLR. Let's just hope we've abandoned the "bigger pays more" mindset, or at the very least, added a very large international override for those categories.

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Until the French govt declares that all international flights have to land in CDG
Ya, I'd expect to see something like this, or at the very least, severely restricting international flights into the smaller airports
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Amsterdam is going to boom! Brussels might also pick up more traffic.
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We're much more likely to see wholesale deployment of SAF, and eventually radical new aircraft designs to improve efficiency and minimize carbon.
SAFuels are interesting but im more excited about some of the all electric designs coming down the pipe. Harbour air is making it work. And did you see this story...

United Airlines orders 200 vertical-takeoff electric airplanes

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