Originally Posted by fdx727pilot

Geez, Tony. That union job is making you testy.

Originally Posted by TonyC

All you are getting at is backpedalling. You failed to accurately describe the toddler's behavior, and now you fail to admit your mistake. That sounds a lot like the FA.

Few minutes that show was taking place? That's another spectacular void of situational awareness. I doubt you noticed that the Mom's home is in Oklahoma, and the show is broadcast live in New York City, and the Mom and toddler got from Oklahoma to New York City is some less-than-magical way. They slept in a strange hotel, and then woke up early in order to get to the studio. I could be off on the exact times, but I'm guessing a 4AM wake-up for a 5AM show at the studio. (Remember that 4AM in NYC is 3AM in Oklahoma, i.e., Toddler Time.) After arriving at the studio, there was time for make-up, microphone wiring, sound and lighting checks, preinterview to go over the story and the facts, and then they were left on the couch to wait for Diane Sawyer to get to their story. You know, the hurry up and wait routine? You don't think there were a few things in the studio that attracted the kid's attention, that then frustrated him when he was forced to remain in Mom's lap for no apparent reason?

More travel, strange bed, sleep interrupted, strange surroundings, strange stimuli -- and you think he was a monster? Even in your backpedalling, you didn't retract your name-calling. Sure, he was squirmy -- you call that nasty? He pushed the toy space shuttle -- you call that throwing something across the stage?

I maintain the toddler's behavior was nothing more than squirming to get down and play, and considering the circumstances of travel, sleep deprivation, and stimuli, he was well-behaved. Monsters don't say, "Thank you."

But, you perfectly demonstrate the process that the FA must have used to draw the conclusion that the toddler (or the Mom who refused to drug him) didn't belong on the airplane, and who then concocted a story to persuade the flight crew to toss them.


Let's make this simple. Rather than pursue the multitude of lapses in observation or inability to accurately characterize those observations, I'll boil it down to one:

You accused the toddler of throwing something across the stage.

1) Tell us what he threw across the stage

or

2) Retract the accusation and apologize



If you can't do one of those, we'll know where you stand, and we need not bother continuing this conversation with you.




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Originally Posted by TonyC

I didn't say retract the accusation and claim it doesn't matter.


I said retract the accusation and apologize.


Have a nice day.





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Originally Posted by Superpilot92

I will tell you what I'll apologize when you apologize for getting bent out of shape. Just kidding with you. However Next time I see Mommy and Little Boy aka "Removed" I will be sure to apologize. However i do enjoy debating with you, you make good arguments as well. Do you fly Pax or Cargo? I am willing to bet Cargo. I see it way to often on the PAX side of people who have no common courtesy for others around them. Thats a big pet peeve of mine. Seriously Have a good day boss.

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

The kid does lack discipline. Or the mother doesn't come down on him hard enough. There is no way in hell I'd be allowed to act like that around my mother at his age.

Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

The kid does lack discipline. Or the mother doesn't come down on him hard enough. There is no way in hell I'd be allowed to act like that around my mother at his age. All she had to say was, "I'm going to tell your father when he gets home" and I was under control. Works for my cousins too. 3yr and 5yr old. Every time the get out of line I drop that line and if that doesn't work I pull out the belt. My grandfather, father, as well as sister and I all got it. When I have kids or am watching someone else's they'll get it too.