You may have to turn chemtrails off over TN:
 

May be illegal soon:

https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/tennessee-lawmakers-propose-legislation-banning-chemtrails/

I know there's some serious inbreeding there, but wasn't aware the stupidity quotient had reached critical mass.

They'll probably adopt the q-anon symbol on the state flag, next week.

Technically, the bill doesn't specify chemtrails, though it stops just short, by providing the definition. https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063

It falls under the Tennessee Air Quality Act: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Fiscal/FM1875.pdf

That's the amendment. The bill itself has nothing to do with that: the bill reduces the time that a vacancy is allowed on the air pollution control board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The conspiracy stupidity, carefully couched not to say "conspiracy" or "chemtrail," is added as an amendment, perhaps because it would have looked far too stupid to put that as the bill itself.

https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Bill/HB2063.pdf

​​​​​​​https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bil...=HB2063&GA=113

Cloud seeding is a real thing

Yeah reading it, it seems to impact INTENTIONAL concepts to affect atmospheric absorbance or reflectance for those specific purposes.

Contrails are not intentional, nor for any particular purpose.

Hypothetical chemtrails, if they actually existed, might be impacted depending on the intended purpose of the chemtrails.

I don't know why they care, but this doesn't really seem to be directed at "chemtrails".

Wait until they attempt to ban distrails. Ban it, because it's not there.

looks to me like they’re either going after cloud seeding, which is a real thing; or, more likely, solar geoengineering, which is also a real thing but hasn’t been attempted on a large scale yet.

Of course "Cloud seeding" is a "real thing." Solar geoengineering isn't, beyond speculation and computer models and a lot of woulda's and coulda's.

I've done "cloud seeding," which is science-based. It can be very effective. One ought not be so naive as to think the wording of the bill amendment refers to atmospheric research.

It also had widespread potential to criminalize everything from a camp fire to a can of hair spray.

I've done "cloud seeding." I've also been on the receiving end of death threats from religious fanatics and conspiracy nuts that thought we were interfering with the natural process of God.

Some years ago a fruitcake with a fanatical bent on chemtrails told me that he had incontrovertable proof on his website, which I visited. There, among many other photos, I found one of a man in an airplane, operating large chemical tanks and equipment. I was familiar; the picture was me and the equipment was retardant tanks in a C-130, firefighting. The conspiracy nut insisted that I must be "one of them," and now he knew who I was. His website called for anone who encountered a pilot to kill the pilot on site, to prevent chemtrails. Those people are out there in large numbers. Apparently in the Tennessee legislature, too.

Right up there with Oklahoma proposing a ban on allowing kids who allegedly identify as cats to use litter boxes at school. 'Cause that's a thing that some toothless wonders with access to the whole internet, but only enough brain power to comprehend the Jerry Springer parts, believe to be true. 🤦‍♂️ There really is no limit on the gullibility of our society & elected officials are not immune. Unfuhkkingbelievable.

In fairness, there are proposals to ameliorate the effects of global warming through cloud seeding rather than worrying about CO2, methane, or other "greenhouse gases".:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/ab71a3

It may actually refer to that rather than chemtrails.

But let's continue to insult the rural areas because that "deplorables" comment worked so well for Hillary.

The bill has nothing to do with climate change. As noted before, and quoted, and cited and linked, it has to do with reducing the maximum period of vacancy for a seat on the air pollution board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The bill rider was written in as an amendment.

Injecting something into the atmosphere that effects weather changes, reduces sunlight, or changes the temperature can range from hair spray to a bonfire, to say nothing of cloud seeding, "chemtrails," ad nauseum. Anything which puts so-called "greenhouse gas" iinto the atmosphere, or adds condensation nuclei, or outputs large volumes of smoke, smog, or other polution, has such an impact, and such a law could be used against almost anyone who sprays any chemical in the air, or burns their trash. Let's not be idiots, however. The language of that bill rider, while not explicit, is clear.

Cloud seeding is beneficial. There's no political gravity to making cloud seeding illegal. It's used by governments and municipalities for purposes that range from enhancing rainfall, to eliminating or reducing hail; both are possible with weather modification programs, and these aren't seen, generally speaking, as evil threats to the right wing fringe. They're beneficial, science-based, and not particularly controversial in western locales. (As noted previously, I have experience with atmospheric research [specifically airborne thunderstorm studies], as well as weather modification -"cloud seeding"- and have received death threats, but in predominantly Islamic locations, from Islamic fundamentalists who felt our work was attempting to interfere witih the domain of God). Let's not pretend that this bill is intended to stamp out "cloud seeding."

We're not that stupid. Or naive.

As for the solar radiation management article that you linked ("cirrus seeding"); it's a pseudo-academic study with little more than speculation and hot air to back it up, as is the entire premise. It's not actually "a thing." To date, the entire concept of solar geoengineering in practice amounts to little more than white rooftops. The practical application is non-existant, with nothing more than ambitious proposals, studies of studies of speculative theorization, and a generous dose of hot air. Do we really believe that a house bill and a senate bill have been generated to make illegal solar geoengineering? Or "cloud seeding?"

Let's be realistic.

Yeah, let's BE realistic. First, this part is an amendment - some stray politicians wild hare - to a more general bill. And then it's a state legislature. Yiu know, the sort of organization that periodically has to be talked out of rounding off pi to some less difficult to remember value?

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/...-from-the-sky/

I see nowhere in the posting any actual indication of the INTENT of the amendment being about chemtrails per se, but if you have an actual reference to such an intent,or the name of someone advocating it for such use please show me and I'll be glad to admit my error.

If I may, to add to your comment.

From 'The Council for the Human Future' (a group/organization I had never heard of and know nothing about, but the list I am about to reference seemed based on rational thought)

A list of 10 current "Mega Risks" to modern civilization.
Number 10, under sub-section Human Impacts was:
Mass Delusion.

The 9 other "Risks" were pretty much what one would expect. Mass Delusion might not yet be in main stream thought, but I agreed with it making the list.

Your post references this nicely. Mass Delusion indeed.
Peter Pomerantsev has written how Russia has managed to create a society where belief in objective truth and facts has been battered. It is an important part of the puzzle as to why Russia is so unstable.
Dr. Timothy Snyder has written how that the destruction of the very notion of Truth is being deployed by Putin's Russia against all it's enemies. Hoping to undermine and destabilize the enemy societies just as has been acomplished in Russia.

Reminds me, a number of years ago, a California legislator introduced a bill to define pi as 3.00. "It's for the disadvantaged kids. Math is too hard, as it is."

Horse$h!t. Many here don’t hesitate to call out stupidity when it occurs on the left. Sometimes they’re even right. I haven’t seen you rushing to AOC’s defense. Dumbassery occurs on both sides of the aisle. Whether it’s coming from some kid with a Che T-shirt on or some ignorant inbred, it should be called out.

The authors of the bill are notoriously absent from this. By design, I'm sure. I'd love to get them on record stating the intent of this bill. I'm sure that "cloud seeding" is not worth the State Assembly's time. But turning the frogs gay is definitely worth it.

As for insulting deplorables, a friend was getting married in Tennessee, and looking over his marriage license application, what caught my attention was a section asking about the relationship to the fiance. There were three boxes to check. One for second cousin and more distant. One for first cousins, and one for closer than first cousins. That didn't take much imagination.

I can tell you, based on knowledge of former in-laws, that the Foxworthy you-might-be-a-redneck genre isn't fanciful and it isn't fringe or just found on Jerry Springer. There's a very large contingent of rednecks out there who are proud to be. Go figure, and while counting fingers, contemplate your dream-trailer. The one with genuine aluminum skirting.

It has that lived-in look, because I broke it in for you.

I was referring to legislation introduced in the 1990s, not a century before. It was not history to read about. It was current events.

Do you have a year, or a name of the legislator?
I googled and couldn't find it.
Had similar story told by a high school physics teacher.
He invoked Iowa.
Whether true or not, it does portray the silliness of thinking political views can define Nature and Her Laws.

Sort of like Knute showing his advisors that even a king has limits.
(when he commanded the oceans waves)

Just because the king commands the waves and they don't respond, doesn't mean the king is without power. It could just be bad waves.

I remember reading it in the newspaper and in other media, repeatedly. (Before the days of the internet and social media). No, I did not memorize the year or legislator. My memory is not that good. It was 25 or 30 years ago.

i speak the truth.