You may have to turn chemtrails off over TN:
03-22-2024, 06:55 AM
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You may have to turn chemtrails off over TN:
03-22-2024, 06:59 AM
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I know there's some serious inbreeding there, but wasn't aware the stupidity quotient had reached critical mass.
They'll probably adopt the q-anon symbol on the state flag, next week.
Technically, the bill doesn't specify chemtrails, though it stops just short, by providing the definition. https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063
AMENDMENT #1 rewrites the bill to prohibit the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.
It falls under the Tennessee Air Quality Act: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Fiscal/FM1875.pdf
That's the amendment. The bill itself has nothing to do with that: the bill reduces the time that a vacancy is allowed on the air pollution control board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The conspiracy stupidity, carefully couched not to say "conspiracy" or "chemtrail," is added as an amendment, perhaps because it would have looked far too stupid to put that as the bill itself.
https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Bill/HB2063.pdf
https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bil...=HB2063&GA=113
They'll probably adopt the q-anon symbol on the state flag, next week.
Technically, the bill doesn't specify chemtrails, though it stops just short, by providing the definition. https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063
BILL SUMMARY
ON MARCH 18, 2024, THE SENATE ADOPTED AMENDMENT #1 AND PASSED SENATE BILL 2691, AS AMENDED.AMENDMENT #1 rewrites the bill to prohibit the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.
That's the amendment. The bill itself has nothing to do with that: the bill reduces the time that a vacancy is allowed on the air pollution control board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The conspiracy stupidity, carefully couched not to say "conspiracy" or "chemtrail," is added as an amendment, perhaps because it would have looked far too stupid to put that as the bill itself.
AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 4; Title 5; Title 6; Title 7; Title 8; Title 39; Title 42; Title 43; Title 44; Title 55; Title 58; Title 59; Title 60; Title 65; Title 68 and Title 69, relative to environmental protection.
Environmental Preservation - As introduced, decreases, from 180 days to 150 days, the time that the air pollution control board can have more than one vacancy after an appointing authority of the board receives sufficient information to fill the appropriate vacancy before the board is required to report to the government operations committees. - Amends TCA Title 4; Title 5; Title 6; Title 7; Title 8; Title 39; Title 42; Title 43; Title 44; Title 55; Title 58; Title 59; Title 60; Title 65; Title 68 and Title 69.
AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 4; Title 5; Title 6; Title 7; Title 8; Title 39; Title 42; Title 43; Title 44; Title 55; Title 58; Title 59; Title 60; Title 65; Title 68 and Title 69, relative to environmental protection.
Environmental Preservation - As introduced, decreases, from 180 days to 150 days, the time that the air pollution control board can have more than one vacancy after an appointing authority of the board receives sufficient information to fill the appropriate vacancy before the board is required to report to the government operations committees. - Amends TCA Title 4; Title 5; Title 6; Title 7; Title 8; Title 39; Title 42; Title 43; Title 44; Title 55; Title 58; Title 59; Title 60; Title 65; Title 68 and Title 69.
https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bil...=HB2063&GA=113
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03-22-2024, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Cloud seeding is a real thing
Contrails are not intentional, nor for any particular purpose.
Hypothetical chemtrails, if they actually existed, might be impacted depending on the intended purpose of the chemtrails.
I don't know why they care, but this doesn't really seem to be directed at "chemtrails".
03-22-2024, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I know there's some serious inbreeding there, but wasn't aware the stupidity quotient had reached critical mass.
They'll probably adopt the q-anon symbol on the state flag, next week.
Technically, the bill doesn't specify chemtrails, though it stops just short, by providing the definition. https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063
It falls under the Tennessee Air Quality Act: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Fiscal/FM1875.pdf
That's the amendment. The bill itself has nothing to do with that: the bill reduces the time that a vacancy is allowed on the air pollution control board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The conspiracy stupidity, carefully couched not to say "conspiracy" or "chemtrail," is added as an amendment, perhaps because it would have looked far too stupid to put that as the bill itself.
https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Bill/HB2063.pdf
https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bil...=HB2063&GA=113
They'll probably adopt the q-anon symbol on the state flag, next week.
Technically, the bill doesn't specify chemtrails, though it stops just short, by providing the definition. https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2063
It falls under the Tennessee Air Quality Act: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Fiscal/FM1875.pdf
That's the amendment. The bill itself has nothing to do with that: the bill reduces the time that a vacancy is allowed on the air pollution control board, from 180 days, to 150 days. The conspiracy stupidity, carefully couched not to say "conspiracy" or "chemtrail," is added as an amendment, perhaps because it would have looked far too stupid to put that as the bill itself.
https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Bill/HB2063.pdf
https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/Bil...=HB2063&GA=113
03-22-2024, 11:08 AM
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Of course "Cloud seeding" is a "real thing." Solar geoengineering isn't, beyond speculation and computer models and a lot of woulda's and coulda's.
I've done "cloud seeding," which is science-based. It can be very effective. One ought not be so naive as to think the wording of the bill amendment refers to atmospheric research.
It also had widespread potential to criminalize everything from a camp fire to a can of hair spray.
I've done "cloud seeding." I've also been on the receiving end of death threats from religious fanatics and conspiracy nuts that thought we were interfering with the natural process of God.
Some years ago a fruitcake with a fanatical bent on chemtrails told me that he had incontrovertable proof on his website, which I visited. There, among many other photos, I found one of a man in an airplane, operating large chemical tanks and equipment. I was familiar; the picture was me and the equipment was retardant tanks in a C-130, firefighting. The conspiracy nut insisted that I must be "one of them," and now he knew who I was. His website called for anone who encountered a pilot to kill the pilot on site, to prevent chemtrails. Those people are out there in large numbers. Apparently in the Tennessee legislature, too.
I've done "cloud seeding," which is science-based. It can be very effective. One ought not be so naive as to think the wording of the bill amendment refers to atmospheric research.
It also had widespread potential to criminalize everything from a camp fire to a can of hair spray.
I've done "cloud seeding." I've also been on the receiving end of death threats from religious fanatics and conspiracy nuts that thought we were interfering with the natural process of God.
Some years ago a fruitcake with a fanatical bent on chemtrails told me that he had incontrovertable proof on his website, which I visited. There, among many other photos, I found one of a man in an airplane, operating large chemical tanks and equipment. I was familiar; the picture was me and the equipment was retardant tanks in a C-130, firefighting. The conspiracy nut insisted that I must be "one of them," and now he knew who I was. His website called for anone who encountered a pilot to kill the pilot on site, to prevent chemtrails. Those people are out there in large numbers. Apparently in the Tennessee legislature, too.
03-22-2024, 11:44 AM
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Right up there with Oklahoma proposing a ban on allowing kids who allegedly identify as cats to use litter boxes at school. 'Cause that's a thing that some toothless wonders with access to the whole internet, but only enough brain power to comprehend the Jerry Springer parts, believe to be true. 🤦♂️ There really is no limit on the gullibility of our society & elected officials are not immune. Unfuhkkingbelievable.
03-22-2024, 02:27 PM
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In fairness, there are proposals to ameliorate the effects of global warming through cloud seeding rather than worrying about CO2, methane, or other "greenhouse gases".:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/ab71a3
It may actually refer to that rather than chemtrails.
But let's continue to insult the rural areas because that "deplorables" comment worked so well for Hillary.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...48-9326/ab71a3
It may actually refer to that rather than chemtrails.
But let's continue to insult the rural areas because that "deplorables" comment worked so well for Hillary.
03-22-2024, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
But let's continue to insult the rural areas because that "deplorables" comment worked so well for Hillary.
Injecting something into the atmosphere that effects weather changes, reduces sunlight, or changes the temperature can range from hair spray to a bonfire, to say nothing of cloud seeding, "chemtrails," ad nauseum. Anything which puts so-called "greenhouse gas" iinto the atmosphere, or adds condensation nuclei, or outputs large volumes of smoke, smog, or other polution, has such an impact, and such a law could be used against almost anyone who sprays any chemical in the air, or burns their trash. Let's not be idiots, however. The language of that bill rider, while not explicit, is clear.
Cloud seeding is beneficial. There's no political gravity to making cloud seeding illegal. It's used by governments and municipalities for purposes that range from enhancing rainfall, to eliminating or reducing hail; both are possible with weather modification programs, and these aren't seen, generally speaking, as evil threats to the right wing fringe. They're beneficial, science-based, and not particularly controversial in western locales. (As noted previously, I have experience with atmospheric research [specifically airborne thunderstorm studies], as well as weather modification -"cloud seeding"- and have received death threats, but in predominantly Islamic locations, from Islamic fundamentalists who felt our work was attempting to interfere witih the domain of God). Let's not pretend that this bill is intended to stamp out "cloud seeding."
We're not that stupid. Or naive.
As for the solar radiation management article that you linked ("cirrus seeding"); it's a pseudo-academic study with little more than speculation and hot air to back it up, as is the entire premise. It's not actually "a thing." To date, the entire concept of solar geoengineering in practice amounts to little more than white rooftops. The practical application is non-existant, with nothing more than ambitious proposals, studies of studies of speculative theorization, and a generous dose of hot air. Do we really believe that a house bill and a senate bill have been generated to make illegal solar geoengineering? Or "cloud seeding?"
Let's be realistic.
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