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Profane Kahuna 05-06-2026 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032556)
So you think the population disparity between the two sides is irrelevant to the conduct and outcome of the war. Got it. Ever do much war planning? Or command troops?




That’s not what he said. He is pointing out that you only post pro russian propaganda and how your support for an enemy of the USA is ‘interesting’ for someone who claims to be a Veteran of the US Armed Forces.



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Excargodog 05-06-2026 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4032795)
That’s not what he said. He is pointing out that you only post pro russian propaganda and how your support for an enemy of the USA is ‘interesting’ for someone who claims to be a Veteran of the US Armed Forces.
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No. He has called me a traitor and other things just for reporting FACTS. And FACTS are neutral, not “pro-Russian”. One could just as easily assert that being vastly outnumbered makes Ukraine’s resistance all that more impressive - indeed heroic. But appealing for ignorance about the limitations in Ukraine’s resources isn’t helpful to Ukraine. Zelensky himself is saying they are running low on Patriot missiles, and touting a locally produced variant of the Russian S400 as an interim (if incomplete) fix. Does that make him a traitor to Ukraine?

Appeals to suppress unclassified FACTS are simply a Sophist trick to deny people the information necessary to make informed decisions. Ignoring FACTS don’t make them go away, however much you and Hub might wish the facts were not true.


So do you consider THIS to be “proRussian propaganda”?

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12150

Profane Kahuna 05-06-2026 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032810)
No. He has called me a traitor and other things just for reporting FACTS. And FACTS are neutral, not “pro-Russian”. One could just as easily assert that being vastly outnumbered makes Ukraine’s resistance all that more impressive - indeed heroic. But appealing for ignorance about the limitations in Ukraine’s resources isn’t helpful to Ukraine. Zelensky himself is saying they are running low on Patriot missiles, and touting a locally produced variant of the Russian S400 as an interim (if incomplete) fix. Does that make him a traitor to Ukraine?

Appeals to suppress unclassified FACTS are simply a Sophist trick to deny people the information necessary to make informed decisions. Ignoring FACTS don’t make them go away, however much you and Hub might wish the facts were not true.


So do you consider THIS to be “proRussian propaganda”?

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12150





It is blatantly obvious to any reasonable observer that you only post pro russian news.

That is the definition of a propagandist.




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METO Guido 05-06-2026 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032810)
No. He has called me a traitor and other things just for reporting FACTS. And FACTS are neutral, not “pro-Russian”. One could just as easily assert that being vastly outnumbered makes Ukraine’s resistance all that more impressive - indeed heroic. But appealing for ignorance about the limitations in Ukraine’s resources isn’t helpful to Ukraine. Zelensky himself is saying they are running low on Patriot missiles, and touting a locally produced variant of the Russian S400 as an interim (if incomplete) fix. Does that make him a traitor to Ukraine?

Appeals to suppress unclassified FACTS are simply a Sophist trick to deny people the information necessary to make informed decisions. Ignoring FACTS don’t make them go away, however much you and Hub might wish the facts were not true.


So do you consider THIS to be “proRussian propaganda”?

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12150

The ‘fact’ Ukraine remains free of Russian rule west of the front is at once humbling and disturbing given the circumstances. Put yourself in their bloodied boots if you can. Give in to those bastards? No. F no.


Excargodog 05-06-2026 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4032861)
It is blatantly obvious to any reasonable observer that you only post pro russian news.

That is the definition of a propagandist.




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Horse$hit. You apparently don’t even KNOW the definition

propagandist' - Complete English Word Guide

Definitions of 'propagandist'

A propagandist is a person who tries to persuade people to support a particular idea or group, often by giving inaccurate information.
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Citing the CIA factbook , congressional studies, Ukrainian government statements and other RELEVANT FACTUAL DATA does not make one a propagandist, far less a traitor. Reporting unfortunate adverse facts are very different from being a partisan for either side. Facts are facts. That a situation may appear to favor one side or another does not mean they are ADVOCATING for one side or another.

Pi is an irrational number approximating 3.1415926535… While it would be far more convenient if pi were four, all the advocating for that in the world would not make it so. And IF the population of Ukraine were 250 million and IF they still had nukes, it’s highly unlikely Russia would have attacked them, but those aren’t the facts. Stating that those aren’t the facts is neither anti Ukraine or pro Russian. Being incapable of dealing with reality isn’t patriotic, it’s delusional - a mental health issue.

Profane Kahuna 05-07-2026 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032934)
Horse$hit. You apparently don’t even KNOW the definition


Citing the CIA factbook , congressional studies, Ukrainian government statements and other RELEVANT FACTUAL DATA does not make one a propagandist, far less a traitor. Reporting unfortunate adverse facts are very different from being a partisan for either side. Facts are facts. That a situation may appear to favor one side or another does not mean they are ADVOCATING for one side or another.

Pi is an irrational number approximating 3.1415926535… While it would be far more convenient if pi were four, all the advocating for that in the world would not make it so. And IF the population of Ukraine were 250 million and IF they still had nukes, it’s highly unlikely Russia would have attacked them, but those aren’t the facts. Stating that those aren’t the facts is neither anti Ukraine or pro Russian. Being incapable of dealing with reality isn’t patriotic, it’s delusional - a mental health issue.





Your sources are immaterial.

The FACT is you only write pro russian posts.

That is what makes you a russian fan boy and propagandist.




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Hubcapped 05-07-2026 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4032943)
Your sources are immaterial.

The FACT is you only write pro russian posts.

That is what makes you a russian fan boy and propagandist.




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its absolutely wild that he thinks playing dumb works here. He knows exactly what he is doing. Just like when he lied on purpose, or would consciously misrepresent what people say, he has no integrity.

Excargodog 05-07-2026 06:21 AM

Denying facts does not negate facts. Facts don’t care.

MaxQ 05-07-2026 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032991)
Denying facts does not negate facts. Facts don’t care.

Cargo
You know as well as everyone else does that aligning selective facts, if done with partisan intent, can produce a false narrative.
It is the stock and trade of propaganda outfits such as Pravda, FOXNews, Epoch Times etc

What they choose to omit is just as salient as any facts presented.

METO Guido 05-07-2026 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4032991)
Denying facts does not negate facts. Facts don’t care.

In fact Russian occupation will never, as in never ever, subjugate Ukraine as they’ve slaughtered so vainly to prove otherwise. Quite the deadpan irony.


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