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Old 11-01-2007 | 01:38 PM
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Old 11-01-2007 | 04:00 PM
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I met the Col. - He signed my first log book on my first solo xc in fixed wing...

Pretty cool old guy...

He'll be in many Silent Gone West toasts..
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Old 11-02-2007 | 12:03 PM
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Too bad his Co-pilot on the Enola Gay was a 1989 Eastern SCAB. C.D. Albury.

Tibbets was a good guy. I didn't even know he was still alive.
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Old 11-02-2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Too bad his Co-pilot on the Enola Gay was a 1989 Eastern SCAB. C.D. Albury.
The guy must have been very close to retirement in 1989, like months away. I wonder if you're expected to strike if you'll hit age 60 before the strike is over?
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Old 11-02-2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Too bad his Co-pilot on the Enola Gay was a 1989 Eastern SCAB. C.D. Albury.

Tibbets was a good guy. I didn't even know he was still alive.
I am not sure this math really works.

If he were 18 years old in 1945 - then he would have turned turned 60 in 1987. (Born 1927, enlisted, trained to fly bombers, specialized training to drop the nuke, etc). If he were 20 when the bomb was dropped, then he would have been 60 in 1985. 20 is the EARLIEST age I would anticipate being able to enlist, do flight training, and then do the special training the 393rd Bombard Group did. I think it would still be much more likely that even at 20 you could not have accomplished all this - they did not pick guys directly out of flight school for this mission.

The math does not work - couldn't have been the same person scabbing in 1989. Perhaps his namesake or something, but not him.
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Old 11-02-2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Too bad his Co-pilot on the Enola Gay was a 1989 Eastern SCAB. C.D. Albury.
He was 94 in 2005 (picture) or 78 in 1989. PLEASE have your facts straight before ruining a "hero's" reputation.

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Old 11-02-2007 | 02:29 PM
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I just got it off the master scab list, it says in the comments section that he was the co pilot of the Enola Gay. I didn't write the list.
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Old 11-02-2007 | 02:30 PM
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It makes me wonder how accurate the rest of the list is?
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Old 11-02-2007 | 02:42 PM
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I found an article online about Abury being the co-pilot on the Bockscar (Nagasaki) not the Enola Gay. From what I've found he retired in 1980, but he IS listed as an Eastern Scab. He must have taken a non "line flying" position.? There were a couple Comair scabs that were retired that flew reposition flights. Maybe he did the same. Maybe he took an instructor/training position?

As for a war hero, who knows? Benedict Arnold was the greatest hero of the Revolutionary War and look what he did.

All I'm saying is that he is on the scab list. I know nothing more nor am I saying more.
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Old 11-02-2007 | 10:35 PM
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I had the fortune of meeting Tibbets in 2001. Got to shake his hand and he signed a book, gave a little speech about aviation at a building dedication, it was a nice little ceremony. You'd be hard pressed to find many people who can claim they changed the world and pinpoint the exact second which it happened.
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