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Does anybody know if anyone has created an e-Logbook for the iPhone? LogbookPro hasn't started supporting Mac yet because they don't seem to think Macs/iPhones will increase in market share in the future. While I disagree, I was just curious if anybody has seen any products/software out there that can be used, since I'm very close to buying an iPhone.

Thanks!

iPhone doesn't currently support 3rd party apps, unless you hack into I guess.

The iPhone will be open to 3rd party developers in February. Apple has a bunch of apps for it but I didn't see any logbook apps.

how would you put it into the phone? Through itunes somehow maybe?

I have an iphone and I havent even bothered to figure out how to even put music into it let alone a 3rd party app.

Well, I wasn't sure about being able to create something within the Apple software. I think the easiest way to do it would be to have an eLogbook online (with some sort of secure sign in, etc)....that way it could be accessed with Safari (or even IE or Firefox, etc). Just a thought.......But I'd love to see an 3rd party application come out for it when they're available.

More reasons not to buy an iphone or any Mac product.

There is an online logbook - www.myonlinelogbook.com. It's $36/year. And if your company uses CCS, which CAL and XJT use because I'm pretty sure it's a CAL program, it logs in automatically and downloads the pairings.

As for not buying any Apple products, for every reason someone wouldn't buy a Mac, there is a reason not to buy a PC. Not to mention all the new Macs essentially run with a two sided brain - one is Mac and one is PC. It's not an emulator, either. It's an Intel motherboard. So you can run any and all PC apps on it and have all the benefits of a Mac - the biggest being system stability.

The system stability stems from limited software support. The more they make it open to developers the more issues they will start having which is something that worries them with the iphone. As far as windows instability goes I haven't had it crash on this laptop ever. Just over two years.

I also recently read that PC World (or some comparable publication) tested Windows Vista on multiple makes and models of computers. A Mac (I don't recall which one) ran Vista the fastest out of all of them (it included a ton of PCs).

I know a lot of people don't like Macs, but they really are quite good computers. Just because they're not PCs and they're different doesn't make them bad. In fact, I'd argue that those differences made them A LOT better. Just my $.02....for what it's worth.

Exactly. My biased opinion sasy Macs are a far better product. My objective opinion says they are, at a minimum, equal products.

I was a pc user for years and had all the same excuses why I would not want a Mac. After upgrading to Vista and all the issues it caused on my computer I decided to try a Mac. I have had my Mac now for several months and will never go back to a pc.

MAC may be better. I know, I used to be all MAC, but the prices, software availability & prices, etc made me switch. I tired of paying more for less. I don't think Apple products are worth it. I don't miss them.

I have not had one problem with Vista, but I did buy the machine with Vista on it. I did not upgrade.

I also have not had any difficulties with vista, nor would I go back to a Mac (Too little for too much)

While I'll agree that software availability USED to be a problem, the new split system eliminates that. But to each his own.

My next laptop will be Mac IF and only IF thay can come up with a model that will survive the life in a rollaboard. Right now, their shell is just too wimpy. With respect to performance, a mac will beat a PC any day of the week. I also hope that NC Software will make a mac version of the APDL for the IPhone - that will bring me to the store at least...

logshare.com

My Mac is in my rollaboard about five days a week. It survives quite nicely. In fact I just upgraded to a Macbook Pro. It is insanely fast and quite impressive. I had my Alum Powerbook for years and took it with me on every overnight I had. I never had a problem.

once you go Mac you never go back! I have a Mac and a PC and the PC runs slow gets pop ups all the time bogs down and crashes and basically is a POS. Every three months it must be formatted and have windows installed again.

The mac just runs and runs and runs. There is nothing I can do on windows that you can't do on Mac. Windows makes you buy all their software. Mac has Open office that will run all windows office products.

iphone apps are installed with third party software, ifuntastic is what I use. It unlocks the phone and you just drag and drop the apps you want on the phone. So easy a caveman can do it!

That post is going to cost me big $$$, now I have to take a second look and I don't even need it yet.... I was thinking more in line of a thoughbook or even making my own, but maybe that Mac is the answer?? It just seem so wimpy buildt, kinda like my Dell (That has survived a year on the road with me..). Hmmm, I will check it out....

Are you saying I can run APDL on an Iphone with that stuff? And would that be the palm or Win version? Or both?

(Just what I need, another post costing me $$$...:D)

Hate to break it to you guys but MAC is just PC parts with a specially tailored operating system on it. You can run windows on a Mac and you can run OS X on a PC. Just takes a small amount of tweaking.

OS X is simply a unix based operating system. OS X goes for the eye candy Ohh Ahh factor. Functionality speaking Macs are the least capable. PCs are the most with the middle filled by Linux and BSD/Unix distros.

The speed of the machines is based completely on what's under the hood. Processor, memory, front side bus speed, hard drive rpm (or solid state for that matter). If a Mac emulated Vista faster there were issues on the PCs they ran vista on. Macs had one thing going for them and that was the G4 processor that while running at slower speeds it could complete more operations per second making it a beast of a media machine. The last G4 powerbooks created actually still outperform the new Macs when it comes to video editing.

Macs simply don't have the abilities of PCs. Stability is a non issue. Most the reasons for stability issues regarding PCs in the past had to deal with memory issues and 3rd party development. Windows was open to the public to be developed and not everyone got it right. Vista has strict requirements so upgrading on an older PC might not be wise. If you think you can't crash a Mac then you just don't use them to their max extent. Basic internet use on either won't do much. I've found people who say one is more stable than another simply keep getting themselves into trouble by installing/downloading content they shouldn't. PCs give the user many more options and some users aren't ready for that level. Macs were successful because they limited what the average user could do. Windows never did so everyone got themselves in trouble. Vista has now changed the user definitions and made it harder for people to screw with core settings and files so not near as many user issues.

I haven't had a windows crash on one of my own PCs since windows 2000. All you have to do is not install tons of crap then delete it partially so the comp doesn't know what's on it. If you want a new machine that can take the life of an airline pilot then look no further than a ThinkPad. You buy more than just the pc you get the customer service with it... I worked for Dell for a few years and while it kills me to say it, they treat their employees like Mesa treats theirs, their XPS notebooks are top quality. Customer service, unless you purchase a higher plan, is non-existent though. XPS notebooks are more compact, better screen quality, longer lasting battery, and better performer than the Macs. The new Solid state hard drive they have is amazing. I'm hoping to hold out for bigger ones though. Can never go wrong with a thinkpad though. Still the best.

Now here is someone that saves me $$$, thank you mister! What about the IPhone and APDL issue though? Is it possible to combine them and have them working like my treo? With respect to dell, after I learned they hired don Carter as a CEO, I will never buy another Dell product in my lifetime!

Wow... If only Steve Jobs had known this he could have stopped wasting his time! Thanks for summing it all up for us.

Dougnut

Try this:

http://coradine.com/

And for you PC apologists... watch this!:

http://www.blimptv.net/mostpopularV1.html

Get a clue. Macs are far better computers than anything else on the market. Not fictitious opinion but hard fact proven by numerous testers and personal experience. The iPhone is the best electronic tool I have ever purchased. Ignorance on your part does not make something so.

Now I just need to find some money to buy that MacBook and iPhone....sigh.

Thanks a lot for the link. That was basically the exact stuff I was looking for.

You lost all credibility right there. What did you do, never turn the thing on? I guess then it can't crash.

hahahaha.....well said. i love it.

So any news with this? Can you get an Iphone to unlock and run APDL?

Nobody??? We need some more neards here....

Well, I emailed NC software and got this response:

Hello,

We don't have anything to announce on iPhone support.

Regards,



Eric Addis
B-727 Pilot
NC Software Support Engineer
NC Software - Flight Log Software, Media Cataloging, E-Commerce

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Time for somebody to make some $$$ here. Get going and make an updated version of the APDL and the logbookpro....compatible with Iphone, windows mobile and palm. Hard to belive nobody is doing this...

Too bad - I'm switching from Treo to iPhone in two weeks and I will miss my APDL logbook but I won't miss my Treo...

I do believe there is a apple application that is a logbook. let me do some research...

Ok. Go to www.apple.com/webapps

Search- logbook

There is two offered. The secoond one looks better, but I haven't tried any of them yet.

Blue- from the iphone.

That's awesome - I am definitely gonna look into that one - like the option to link pictures to specific flights - it has some pretty cool features and looks like you can customize the entries.

Only 2 weeks till I become an iPhomaniac... ;)

Unfortunately I got some bad news about the Skype application for the iPhone. Got an email from them saying that right now we'll only be able to use the chat (text) feature in the WiFi mode. To actually 'talk' we'll need to roam the network while overseas...

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Yes, you are able to login into IM+ for Skype via WiFi.
You can not make calls in IM+for Skype via WiWi only, you need GPRS connection for it.
Only chat option is available with WiFi.

Thank you very much for your feedback.
Our developers are discussing now the possibility to develop the new version with VoIP calls.
But it it not will be released in the nearest future.
If you need any further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact us.

Best regards,
Kate Polishchuk

SHAPE Support Team
SHAPE Services
[email protected]
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...peservices.com

anyone know if there is a logbook for the iphone that doesn't require an internet connection? ie if ur flying and want to update it?

Well, this logbook can be kept on iPhone only however, you'll have a better overall experience when you sync it with your computer/laptop (Mac only). For example you can sync any pictures you’d taken into the specific flights and have a link pointing to them. I think that’s a neat feature – “here’s Shanghai airport I landed at on that day,” etc…
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/logtenpropilotlogbook.html

I have an APDL logbook on my Treo and I like it however I just received an email from them saying they have no plans for an iPhone version so I'll be switching to the logbook above unless I find something better.

yeah i have seen that one, but there is an internet connection required. I am wondering if there is a program where it doesn't matter about the internet connection, so you can be using the program inflight.