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Slice 02-08-2008 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 317286)
I don't know how long these things last, or weather or not they can be fired again to give you another 30 seconds. Don't you think that 30 seconds is enough time to disarm an attacker?

What about the second or third guy coming through the door? Tazer is a one shot deal. Firing a gun ain't that hard, especially after the training. Draw, aim, shoot, dead. Rinse and repeat as required. Your talking about people that are trying to kill you. ***?

Senior Skipper 02-08-2008 11:58 PM

I'm aware of system redundancy, but tell that to the United DC10 crew after they lost all their hydraulics. Redundancy has it's limits. How many times have well designed planes suffered electrical losses despite multiple generators? Let's not go off on a tangent about system design though.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree Diver. Who knows, maybe we'll meet in a cockpit one day and you'll change my mind. maybe I'll change yours, but for now, I'm against guns on airplanes.

Diver Driver 02-09-2008 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 317296)
I think we'll have to agree to disagree Diver. Who knows, maybe we'll meet in a cockpit one day and you'll change my mind. maybe I'll change yours, but for now, I'm against guns on airplanes.

Lose electrical power and the ADG deploys providing power to all essential systems. Perhaps we will fly together, if that is the case you will have to put up with the fact that I will have my weapon ready to protect you and the aircraft in case it is needed.

Senior Skipper 02-09-2008 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 317279)
You have much to learn about aircraft design young grasshopper.

What makes you think I'm a young grashopper? Truth is, I am.;) I look forward to learning though. This seems to be one of those issues that has few people on the fence. Either strongly for or against. Let's chat about something more pleasant next time...:D

Senior Skipper 02-09-2008 12:05 AM

What's an ADG? Air Driven Genarator? Not all aircraft have those.

Diver Driver 02-09-2008 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 317298)
What makes you think I'm a young grashopper? Truth is, I am.;) I look forward to learning though. This seems to be one of those issues that has few people on the fence. Either strongly for or against. Let's chat about something more pleasant next time...:D

No hard feelings bro, It's hard to convey certain attitudes/feelings when typing, but im just joking around with ya. I agree that many have different attitudes towards it, I am a fan, others are not.. that's just the way it is and will always be...

Diver Driver 02-09-2008 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 317299)
What's an ADG? Air Driven Genarator? Not all aircraft have those.

Mine does....:cool: :D


I should either go to bed or apply to UPS and fly night freight...

Senior Skipper 02-09-2008 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 317301)
Mine does....:cool: :D



Show off!!:rolleyes:

No hard feelings whatsoever. And to prove it, I'll but you a virtual drink.

jungle 02-09-2008 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 317296)
Who knows, maybe we'll meet in a cockpit one day and you'll change my mind. maybe I'll change yours, but for now, I'm against guns on airplanes.


Thanks for sharing your views, but you have been quite clearly made moot by people who have both the authority and the knowledge to respond in the correct manner.
Now, if we could just get the euroweenies on board.

In the grand scheme of things, people without enough drugs or too many drugs are probably the biggest threat, but a target is a target regardless of motive. It beats a shootdown or big building strike.

reCALcitrant 02-09-2008 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 317295)
What about the second or third guy coming through the door? Tazer is a one shot deal. Firing a gun ain't that hard, especially after the training. Draw, aim, shoot, dead. Rinse and repeat as required. Your talking about people that are trying to kill you. ***?

Slice, we are hiring over at the 93d. Could use some soft hearted, wishy washy, sensitive types. YOU qualify.:D Godamn brother, you don't say much on the forum I disagree with....scary.


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