Jumpseat Etiquette
#11
im not a pilot nor a student pilot yet( with no knowledge on this topic), and I was wondering.. if you JS an airplane that the captain gives an OK on... and there are available seats in the back but also first class seats available in the front.... do you have to ask the captain if you can take the 1st class seat or do you just randomly pick whatever seat you want thats available? im not sure how this works...
#12
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This is a great post, I was actually looking for something like this.
My question is, do you pay to JS? Other than the international fee I mean. How does it work usually? You go to the ticket counter and list there or you do at the gate? How do you pass security?
My question is, do you pay to JS? Other than the international fee I mean. How does it work usually? You go to the ticket counter and list there or you do at the gate? How do you pass security?
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From: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Some airlines are more appreciative if you list first, makes it easier.
Some want you to check in at the gate, most just go to the ticket counter, and it can vary by station.
#16
And guys can argue this point ALL they want. They can pull up the ALPA JS guide and look for themselves. I don't care if the guy works for a non-alpa or non-union carrier. IT IS NOT OK TO CONSUME BOOZE WHILE YOU ARE USING THE JS! Even if you are traveling for fun and not in uniform. If the FA offers you one, politely decline. If the CA says it's OK, politely decline, but tell them to keep it sealed up, and you'll take it with you.
My best Jumpseat flights ever were on TWA and Pan Am across the pond to London. I always got first class and enjoyed the caviar/vodka and wine with dinner. No problem.
What? You say as an additional crew member (ACM) I should be ready to "take over" in case all the pilots are incapacitated or something? Yeah, that's realistic.
The only reason not to drink is if you are a loud/sloppy/obnoxious drunk. In that case you probably don't know it so a blanket rule is the best policy. In my case, I am able to maintain a certain decorum so if I ever jumpseat again and am offer a drink, I'll be happy to partake.
Other than the drinking part, Dojet, your posts about jumpseating are spot on. Thank you for putting so much effort into writing them.
#18
#19
I don't expect to drink and wouldn't even ask. However, if the CA offered it up unsolicited, I may take him up on the offer especially on a flt across the pond.
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From: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Can you explain why you are so adamant about this POLICY? I've jumpseated on many different airlines both foreign and domestic and have never worried about this policy. Who cares if I drink with dinner? I certainly don't care about the opinion of some ALPA manual writer. I would agree that you should not drink in uniform (although why this is not a problem for military pilots I'll never know) but if you are not in uniform and flying a ling flight to Europe or Asia then why not?
My best Jumpseat flights ever were on TWA and Pan Am across the pond to London. I always got first class and enjoyed the caviar/vodka and wine with dinner. No problem.
What? You say as an additional crew member (ACM) I should be ready to "take over" in case all the pilots are incapacitated or something? Yeah, that's realistic.
My best Jumpseat flights ever were on TWA and Pan Am across the pond to London. I always got first class and enjoyed the caviar/vodka and wine with dinner. No problem.
What? You say as an additional crew member (ACM) I should be ready to "take over" in case all the pilots are incapacitated or something? Yeah, that's realistic.
But let's just take an example that may or may not have happened. Two guys are JS'ing on an offline carrier, neither in uniform. One guy in first, the other is the physical JS. You ever ride up front in this situation? The FA's come up to serve the meals. The CA asks the FA "how's the other JS'er doing back there". The FA responds with "oh, he's fine. I gave him a beer and he went right to sleep"
That CA is the JS chair for the airline, how pleased do you think he is with that offline JS'er? How well did that JS'er represent his company? If that guy decides to write a letter to the OTHER company's JS rep, what do you think it would say?
Like I said, do whatever you want.
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