Owning Your Own Airplane (Cessna 210)
04-10-2006, 09:50 PM
#11
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Yep, there are lots of periodic mx items you can do as the owner of the aircraft. Changing oil, servicing fluids, etc. These all add up pretty quickly when you're paying an A&P $40 an hour with a two hour or greater minimum.
06-04-2012, 10:27 AM
#12
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Cessna 210
I am also a wanna-be pilot looking to purchase a plane to learn in. I have done at least some homework and a 150 just won't work for me. For one thing, I weigh 265, my wife weighs 230 and my son, who is only nine weighs in around 120, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't stopped growing. I wouldn't be taking my wife and son up immediately for obvious reasons, but I do want to learn in my own plane so that I don't have to relearn critical stuff. I like the high wing airplanes because my dad had a Cessna when I was a kid. Also, I think my wife would rather not climb up on a wing and lower herself in. Because of our combined weight, I think I need at least a 182. I was looking at 210's but it's kind of scary. Any advise? I am also not rich, but I think I could afford the 210. I don't need six seats though.
06-04-2012, 11:23 AM
#13
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Here's a good used airplane shopping web site, so you can get an idea of what they are selling for...or at least what they are listed for:
Airplanes & Aircraft Parts For Sale - Free Classified Ads - Ultralights to Airliners - Used Aircraft and Helicopter Sales and Classifieds including Cessna, Beechcraft, Piper, de Havilland, Boeing, Airbus and Lockheed planes
They also have airport property, homes with landing strips, etc. hangers, and parts, engines, tires, etc.
Airplanes & Aircraft Parts For Sale - Free Classified Ads - Ultralights to Airliners - Used Aircraft and Helicopter Sales and Classifieds including Cessna, Beechcraft, Piper, de Havilland, Boeing, Airbus and Lockheed planes
They also have airport property, homes with landing strips, etc. hangers, and parts, engines, tires, etc.
06-04-2012, 11:51 AM
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I would suggest the 182 fixed gear non turbo model. Simpler airplanes generally mean lower maintenance, insurance and other costs over the long run. As has been stated previously it will always cost mre than you think.
06-04-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I have had more fun for less than the price of a typical bass boat or snowmobile by owning a Cessna 150. Back when I had mine I flew it all over the US and to Alaska and back several times. I never paid more than $200 on an annual and didn't have insurance since I had so little into it. Since it had an autogas STC I could fly it for just a few dollars per hour. I honestly flew it till I was tired and never had my finances cramped or felt guilty for all the money I was spending, which wasn't much. They are easy to buy and to insure. If you have any maintenance skills at all they are easy to work on. It takes longer to get places than in a 210 but when you are young and building time who cares?
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What if you had a en-route engine failure etc and hurt someone flying with you or someone on the ground? You would loose everything you own plus what you might make in the future! Not smart for most people!
06-04-2012, 01:23 PM
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Or how about this: You park it somewhere, tied down, and a big storm comes along and snaps the ropes, it flips over onto the airplane next to it.
Think that guy's not going to sue?
I know a guy who had not one, but two airplanes flip onto his. No insurance.
The bill; $250,000.
Yeah, insurance is 'expensive' but so is not having any, unless you only fly out of a distant farm field and only fly over water...and you'd better not hit Bubba in his bass boat when your motor quits!
Think that guy's not going to sue?
I know a guy who had not one, but two airplanes flip onto his. No insurance.
The bill; $250,000.
Yeah, insurance is 'expensive' but so is not having any, unless you only fly out of a distant farm field and only fly over water...and you'd better not hit Bubba in his bass boat when your motor quits!
05-12-2015, 10:56 AM
#18
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Take a look at the 177B or RG instead
I own a 76 Cardinal 177B and have a friend that just sold his T210N a few months ago. It took a long time to sell. He sold it because of the fuel costs , maintenance fees and the fact he was spending about $10,000 per year (on a good year) to keep his plane in an airworthy state. Routinely saw $5000 annuals when there was nothing extra to be done.... which was rare. His first annual after purchase, with a descent pre purchase inspection was $27,000. He envied my cardinal even though it flys at 140 kts instead of 165 kts.
05-15-2015, 05:36 PM
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Well I had a great restored Cessna 140 and I went the other way. The fixed expenses are too much for a toy that the family cannot enjoy. I sold it and my next will be a 4 passenger plane that can go somewhere like to visit my daughter etc. Little more for fuel, insurance but not that much and hanger price the same.
05-16-2015, 08:03 AM
#20
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I owned a normally aspirated L model. 160 kts at 12.5 gph, lean of peak. Annuals averaged $2000 and I never really had any major issues with her in the four years I owned her. Insurance (full coverage) was $3300/year. I sold her in 2011.
Load up wife, three kids, bulk out on baggage and full fuel, still have 400 lbs left (kids were small,) and fly for 4+30 and land with an hour's worth of fuel.
A truly amazing and capable single engine aircraft and if I had a need these days I have no issues with replacing her with an M model or later.
But I agree with others, it's a lot of airplane for a low time pilot. Buy a two seater and work your way up. I had been flying for 23 years before my first purchase.
Load up wife, three kids, bulk out on baggage and full fuel, still have 400 lbs left (kids were small,) and fly for 4+30 and land with an hour's worth of fuel.
A truly amazing and capable single engine aircraft and if I had a need these days I have no issues with replacing her with an M model or later.
But I agree with others, it's a lot of airplane for a low time pilot. Buy a two seater and work your way up. I had been flying for 23 years before my first purchase.
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