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jsfBoat 02-09-2009 08:45 PM

UFO Hunters on History
 
I'm seeing adds for UFO Hunters on History for this weeks episode. They'll be talking about UFOs near ORD. I know a lot of pilots dont like to discuss the "encounters" they've had. Just wondering if any one follows this show. Seems like it might be interesting to watch.
-JSF

jungle 02-09-2009 10:57 PM

I don't follow the show, but the History channel should stick to history and not ghosts, UFOs or other haints and hobgoblins.

I have been fortunate enough to see a variety of objects launched into space, from both the ground and the air and a variety of objects enter the atmosphere. I have also seen very close closure at Mach 2 speeds and missles coming off an aircraft at Mach 2 plus. Bullets and artillery shells can also be seen in flight with the naked eye under the right conditions. All these events have one thing in common, they are hard to see unless you are looking for them and waiting, and they would be very difficult to photograph.

Maybe that explains why evidence is impossible to find that proves the existence of UFOs.

My own theory is that life exists in the universe on levels higher and lower than our own, but there is such a vast expanse out there that the twain shall never meet. Just as I would not drive from Miami to New York for a quart of milk, they have no real need to traverse a thousand or a million light years-even if they could, because the various elements needed to constuct a civilization are well distributed throughout the cosmos.

Most of what we get from the popular literature is a quasi-religious/philisophical angst built up on decades of funny fiction from Jules Verne and Buck Rogers to the more modern writers. Much of it has to do with man's grasp for meaning or explanation. Most of it is just fuzzy conspiracy and psychological pitfalls from slightly crazed minds. By the way, aliens aren't in the machines, they are the machines.

See also:http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...od-lawyer.html

For a more advanced discussion.

rickair7777 02-10-2009 06:36 AM

What Jungle said. I have seen a LOT of airborne hardware and munitions in the military and it often looks pretty strange.

Like Jungle said, it's a BIG universe out there...the technical challenges of interstellar space travel are almost beyond human comprehension. If somebody had the ability to actually GET here and the desire to do so, they would be so smart and so advanced that they would either:

A. Land on the white house lawn and announce they are taking over.

B. Remain covert. If they choose to remain hidden, their technology will allow them to do so without difficulty, mistakes, or accidents. A starship is not going to suddenly develop engine trouble and crash in Roswell...after travelling 40 light years at god-only-knows what relativistic velocity :eek:

Get real folks...

USMCFLYR 02-10-2009 07:46 AM

Well there as the Star Trek episode where the Enterprise was caught in the atmosphere of Earth - remember? I mean even the mighty Enterprise broke down once in awhile. What else would Scottie have to yell about?

USMCFLYR

UAL T38 Phlyer 02-10-2009 08:25 AM

The Last Starfighter...
 
USMC:

Please pay tribute to one USAF Capt John Christopher, F-104 pilot, who tried to close for a VID......would an AIM-9B guide on a Warp or Impulse engine, stern-aspect?

In line with Jungle, I have been very disappointed by the History Channel's recent excursions into "supernatural phenomenom" shows. "Investigating" a "haunted house" by using Blair-Witch-like black and white video (shot jerkily and short-duration focus), and using an old Radio Shack Ohmmeter labelled "Ghost-ometer," does not make for educational history. It makes for cheap fodder, and lends credence to the ignorant, foolish, or desperate, that three chumps on late-night cable can somehow prove the existence of spirits and magic powers.

I've also seen "proof" that the "supersonic" F-117 has flying saucer technology...even the aviation shows are tainted.

Please, History Channel, give me more recreations of famous air battles (which are nicely-done computer animations). Show recreations of ancient Roman battles, boats, or machines, based on scientific excavations.

Just let it be based on fact.

USMCFLYR 02-10-2009 08:41 AM

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 555818)
USMC:

Please pay tribute to one USAF Capt John Christopher, F-104 pilot, who tried to close for a VID......would an AIM-9B guide on a Warp or Impulse engine, stern-aspect?

He tried to close for VID but overshot and couldn't get turned around within one earth rotation :D


Please, History Channel, give me more recreations of famous air battles (which are nicely-done computer animations). Show recreations of ancient Roman battles, boats, or machines, based on scientific excavations.
I LOVE those types of shows! The recent one on the fire ships was especially interesting.

USMCFLYR

ryan1234 02-10-2009 09:01 AM

Every now and again MonsterQuest is interesting... just wish they'd actually find something.

... anyone want to join me for an expedition into the Congo?

PLTwnab 02-10-2009 09:17 AM

I thought this was pretty interesting:

France Releases UFO Files-UFO Casebook Files

France let their UFO archives loose. I heard there was some creepy stuff on there. Personally, I've been too lazy to look into it myself, especially after the initial peak of interest when it was impossible to get on the site...

But anyway, I think it's possible that we're not the only "intelligent" life in this universe...I think it could be demonic, or it could be real, but I am not opposed to the idea.

Ephesians 6:12: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

There are UFO and spiritual forums out there if you are interested in seeing inexplicable things.

11Fan 02-10-2009 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by PLTwnab (Post 555853)
.....the only "intelligent" life in this universe...

Of late, I'm beginning to question if there is any......

lakehouse 02-10-2009 01:00 PM

my Dad has been flying for united a long long time, and hasnt seen anything

hotshot 02-10-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by 11Fan (Post 555890)
Of late, I'm beginning to question if there is any......

Hence the quotation marks :)

History Channel's Extreme Marksmen is pretty good

skidmark 02-10-2009 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by ryan1234 (Post 555840)
Every now and again MonsterQuest is interesting... just wish they'd actually find something.

... anyone want to join me for an expedition into the Congo?

Monsterquest is good. I flew with a chubracabra last week.

JDSlaughter 03-15-2009 10:17 AM

I personally didn't like the show. It was simple entertainment at best. The "researchers" on that network really aren't researches at all, as their lack of accurate information and their inability to ACTUALLY do research is obvious. Someone mentioned that the history channel should stick with history, and I totally agree. Good daytime television. Mediocre insight.

USMCFLYR 07-30-2012 06:33 AM

Not necessarily UFO related, but rather Bermuda Triangle related.
Wouldn't this be quite the find if these aircraft were from the missing Flight 19 and the PBM that was also lost?

Divers uncover two wrecked planes - KPLC 7 News, Lake Charles, Louisiana

Flight 19:
Flight 19 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

USMCFLYR

DYNASTY HVY 07-31-2012 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by 11Fan (Post 555890)
Of late, I'm beginning to question if there is any......

Welcome to the club ,looks like some of these channels are going for minutia instead of sticking to what they did in the beginning that made them worth watching.

UAL T38 Phlyer 07-31-2012 05:17 AM

USMC:

Judging by the picture, that is a 6-cylinder horizontally-opposed engine....looks more like a light twin lost in the 1960s than Flight 19.

USMCFLYR 07-31-2012 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1237821)
USMC:

Judging by the picture, that is a 6-cylinder horizontally-opposed engine....looks more like a light twin lost in the 1960s than Flight 19.

I like my (hopeful) theory better :D

USMCFLYR


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