A Serious Case of Hypoxia
12-04-2011 | 04:13 PM
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Pilot Declares Emergency - Extreme Hypoxia
If you haven't already seen/heard this, its worth your 4 minutes. It may save your life (or someone else's) one day:
Pilot Declares Emergency Because Of Extreme Hypoxia - YouTube
Pilot Declares Emergency Because Of Extreme Hypoxia - YouTube
01-03-2013 | 11:28 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
I've been notified by e-mail of a fantastic training opportunity for pilots in the DFW area.
FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education
A scheduled seminar meeting your notification preferences has had some changes. Below is a brief description of the modified seminar:
"!!!!!! The PROTE is Back in Fort Worth !!!!!!!There is still time to sign up"
Topic: Come and find out what it is like at 25,000 feet in the Portable Reduced Oxygen Training Enclosure (PROTE)
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM
Location:
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Alliance Campus
13600 Heritage Parkway
Suite 260
Fort Worth, TX 76177
Description:
Civil Aerospace Medical Institute (CAMI) along with the FAA Safety Team will be presenting training required for operating aircraft at high altitudes. The classroom portion of this training will cover high altitude physiology.
At the conclusion of the classroom session, you will have the opportunity to discover your hypoxia symptoms first-hand in CAMI’s Portable Reduced Oxygen Training Enclosure (PROTE) system temporarily located at MarcAir’s facilities at the Northwest Regional airport. You must attend one of the classroom sessions at the Embry Riddle location, before you can enter the PROTE at MarcAir. Please come to the Embry Riddle classroom first. CAMI will also have their spatial disorientation simulator called the GYRO set up at MarcAir.
See the additional seminar information for links to register for one of the six available classes.
To view further details and registration information for this seminar, click here.
The FAA Safety Team (FAASTeam) is committed to providing equal access to this meeting/event for all participants. If you need alternative formats or services because of a disability, please communicate your request as soon as possible with the person in the "Contact Information" area of the meeting/event notice. Note that two weeks is usually required to arrange services.
Thank you for using Safer Skies Through Education - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov.
A scheduled seminar meeting your notification preferences has had some changes. Below is a brief description of the modified seminar:
"!!!!!! The PROTE is Back in Fort Worth !!!!!!!There is still time to sign up"
Topic: Come and find out what it is like at 25,000 feet in the Portable Reduced Oxygen Training Enclosure (PROTE)
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM
Location:
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Alliance Campus
13600 Heritage Parkway
Suite 260
Fort Worth, TX 76177
Description:
Civil Aerospace Medical Institute (CAMI) along with the FAA Safety Team will be presenting training required for operating aircraft at high altitudes. The classroom portion of this training will cover high altitude physiology.
At the conclusion of the classroom session, you will have the opportunity to discover your hypoxia symptoms first-hand in CAMI’s Portable Reduced Oxygen Training Enclosure (PROTE) system temporarily located at MarcAir’s facilities at the Northwest Regional airport. You must attend one of the classroom sessions at the Embry Riddle location, before you can enter the PROTE at MarcAir. Please come to the Embry Riddle classroom first. CAMI will also have their spatial disorientation simulator called the GYRO set up at MarcAir.
See the additional seminar information for links to register for one of the six available classes.
To view further details and registration information for this seminar, click here.
The FAA Safety Team (FAASTeam) is committed to providing equal access to this meeting/event for all participants. If you need alternative formats or services because of a disability, please communicate your request as soon as possible with the person in the "Contact Information" area of the meeting/event notice. Note that two weeks is usually required to arrange services.
Thank you for using Safer Skies Through Education - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov.
01-03-2013 | 11:55 AM
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While attending Parks College of Saint Louis University, I was fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to experience the high altitude chamber in OKC. It's an experience I hope I never forget. I still remember doing simple math problems and mazes while off O2, and thinking I was doing a great job. The the mask came back on, & I saw nothing but scribbles on my paper. If anyone ever gets the chance to experience a high altitude chamber, DO IT!!!!
01-03-2013 | 11:59 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
While attending Parks College of Saint Louis University, I was fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to experience the high altitude chamber in OKC. It's an experience I hope I never forget. I still remember doing simple math problems and mazes while off O2, and thinking I was doing a great job. The the mask came back on, & I saw nothing but scribbles on my paper. If anyone ever gets the chance to experience a high altitude chamber, DO IT!!!!
01-04-2013 | 07:32 AM
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From: ATP, CFI etc.
How long does the average person have at FL250 before serious hypoxia sets in? If you use a supplementary 02 systems it can be hard to know what you are getting through the pipe/cannula. No low pressure warnings, it just runs out at some point.
01-07-2013 | 01:53 PM
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From: Holding over Macho Grande
Many, many thanks for this heads up, sir! I would've have missed this if not for you and your thoughtful post. I just finished registering a friend of mine and I for the Saturday class, and we're looking forward to it. Thanks again.
01-07-2013 | 02:26 PM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
I hope you will report back after the class and give us a recent update to the training and if you felt it worthwhile.
The safety side of me feels that this type of training and upset/unusual attitude training are very useful, but at the same time I think I might bring some bias considering both hypoxia and OCF were major contributors to mishaps in my past flying experience.
I'd like to know if others find it as useful coming from civilian flying backgrounds.
01-07-2013 | 02:38 PM
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From: Curator at Static Display
In the USAF chamber, you go masks-off at 25,000 until "you notice your personal hypoxia symptoms."
You are given some menial mental tasks, such as a puzzle, or a quiz with math problems.
Most people get noticeably stupid within 3-4 minutes. However, not everyone will put their masks back on. I didn't, the first time I was there.
I now know that in my symptoms, my face gets flushed and warm....just like when I drink (but I'm a happy drunk).
Useful consciousness at 30k is about one minute. At 40k, it is about 15 seconds.
01-07-2013 | 03:05 PM
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From: Holding over Macho Grande
I surely will and also send you a PM when I do. Where should I post the gouge? Here, or...??
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