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Old 08-24-2009 | 08:08 AM
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Southern Airways tried putting a Nine on a road, worked pretty good till they hit the gas station.
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Old 08-24-2009 | 08:38 AM
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This is a pretty good article on it.

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Old 08-24-2009 | 09:14 AM
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Wonder what the lift to glide ratio is for an F-16? That's a single engine bird and it would have to be a fairly low ratio, I am guessing 6 to one. I am sure they are trained to think fast at low altitude in those airplanes when the engine quits. Most other jets you have two engines so it's not as much of a possibility to lose both, although it does happen.
Pretty good guess. The classic answer is 1 NM per 1,000 ft AGL (or 6:1 as you guessed). A completely clean jet is actually a little closer to 8.5:1, but it's best to err to the conservative for some non-jettisonable stores, etc cuz landing in a field is not really an option (the 16 is F-16 is not derived from any 4x4 capabilities).
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Old 08-24-2009 | 02:20 PM
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So.........you're going to land on a road.
Do you land WITH traffic or AGAINST traffic (let's assume it is light to light-moderate)? In the article posted above the video shows one successful emergency landing while flying with the flow of traffic. Who has opinions on this? Please share!

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Old 08-24-2009 | 02:36 PM
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TACA pilots deadsticked a 737 onto a batture (narrow grass strip alongside a levee, not the levee itself) near MSY. Boeing test pilots flew it out.

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Here are pictures; the photographer was a different "Tom":

Taca 737 On New Orleans Levee (pic) — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

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Old 08-24-2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
So.........you're going to land on a road.
Do you land WITH traffic or AGAINST traffic (let's assume it is light to light-moderate)? In the article posted above the video shows one successful emergency landing while flying with the flow of traffic. Who has opinions on this? Please share!

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Definitely WITH traffic. Nothing like a textbook power-off approach and touchdown just in time to be killed in a head-on collision with a car. In all seriousness, IF I had the choice, I would probably land with traffic. We all know that its never our choice when something like this happens. I always teach my students the rules of three: Aviate, navigate, communicate, and trim, Trim, TRIM!
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Old 08-24-2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WalkOfShame
Definitely WITH traffic. Nothing like a textbook power-off approach and touchdown just in time to be killed in a head-on collision with a car. In all seriousness, IF I had the choice, I would probably land with traffic. We all know that its never our choice when something like this happens. I always teach my students the rules of three: Aviate, navigate, communicate, and trim, Trim, TRIM!
Great points. So you would rather have to maneuver around the traffic that might not see you coming from behind than HOPE that the cars see you coming and can get out of your way. I would tend to agree. the article above also speaks to getting the call out and maybe having the police/LE block off traffic for a particular section of road. I remember an occassion from many years ago when that exact circumstance happened and the small GA had enough altitude and time for the LE to get into position.

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Old 08-24-2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Great points. So you would rather have to maneuver around the traffic that might not see you coming from behind than HOPE that the cars see you coming and can get out of your way. I would tend to agree. the article above also speaks to getting the call out and maybe having the police/LE block off traffic for a particular section of road. I remember an occassion from many years ago when that exact circumstance happened and the small GA had enough altitude and time for the LE to get into position.

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Never thought about calling ahead to try and block the road. Not a bad idea if your up high enough I suppose.
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Old 08-24-2009 | 11:43 PM
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You DEFINITELY don't want to go head on...most cars will crush you like a beer can. If you hit a vintage VW bug, it will be an even match.

Land with the traffic, with luck you can fit in behind the folks in front of you, and the people behind you will hit the brakes. If you do hit a car, you will have less relative velocity.
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Old 08-24-2009 | 11:48 PM
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Speaking of this.

My friend was practicing emergency procedures for his PPL checkride. He chose the only suitable landing spot which was a road. But standing right in the middle of the road was a big ol' moose.
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