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1Bigrodeo 04-04-2010 03:44 PM

Splanky,

Spot on. The degree was baggage for the majority of my approach to the majors. Guys saw arrogance with the degree, and it transfers to everyone. It made for some interesting interviews. I still don't tell many people where I went to school until I know them.

Kubota 04-04-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Crism (Post 789740)
As far as I know, there were 8 from Daytona. Most were CFIs but a few weren't. A good friend of mine is one of them. He definitely saw some crazy stuff. Unfortunately they were all furloughed for about a year. They're going back May 3rd.

Pretty sure one of them had over 100hrs. of OE, but her father is a fed?

jonnyjetprop 04-05-2010 04:16 AM

I had 1800/200 before I could even get a job flying cancelled checks in a single. Of course, that was in the 1980's.


[QUOTE=gtech88;789500
Does anyone else remember when 1500/500 was the unwritten regulation? A year or two flight instructing, maybe another year doing 135 work, and the ATP written before even the lowliest regional would talk to you. 100 hours flight instructing? Would you even have enough time in to endorse more than one private pilot canidate?[/QUOTE]

indapit 04-05-2010 06:19 AM

Its funny reading some of the comments for this. The ERAU people copy and paste what was posted earlier. In the end, if congress tells the FAA that ATPs are required, it does not matter what the FAA thinks is right. Congress is higher up and controls the FAA's money so I see this happening to matter what.

indapit 04-05-2010 07:02 AM

My personal favorite is a riddle kid saying the ATP requirement would ruin his dream of becoming an airline pilot. I should post his comment.

Splanky 04-05-2010 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by indapit (Post 790022)
Its funny reading some of the comments for this. The ERAU people copy and paste what was posted earlier. In the end, if congress tells the FAA that ATPs are required, it does not matter what the FAA thinks is right. Congress is higher up and controls the FAA's money so I see this happening to matter what.

This isn't as much about which government agency is creating the new requirement. It is about ERAU lobbying congressional officials and apparently convincing some of them to alter the requirements from the originally proposed ATP.

acl65pilot 04-05-2010 07:05 AM

Generally speaking, when congress starts talking about a law change to the FAA, the FAA jumps in and changes the RULE so it is a RULE and not a LAW. Big difference. Kind of like the age 65 thing.

The reason the FAA is not jumping the gun on the rest rigs, and commuting is because the language in the bill is very vague, and is more of a study and report back. If it was tight, direct, and detailed language, the FAA would do everything in its power to beat Congress to the punch.

dashtrash300 04-05-2010 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by indapit (Post 790055)
My personal favorite is a riddle kid saying the ATP requirement would ruin his dream of becoming an airline pilot. I should post his comment.

PLEASE POST! Having a bad day and need a good laugh!

sukhoikid 04-05-2010 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by pocho (Post 789278)
I was at that meeting in DLC. At least they had free pizza! :)

No but seriously, as an ERAU student, I'm all for the 1500/ATP. It would definitely help point the industry in the right direction. I plan on getting my CFI and working my way up that way in the near future.

The kicker was how he was saying that at 500 TT you will be as good as you will ever get in your career, which even I know isn't true.

I wonder who wrote those answers on that green paper, but I think it's funny how ERAU is telling the students exactly what to write, word for word, on that website to fight the bill.


Well they had to write it for us word for word because our English skills SUCK! lmao!

Anyway thank god I am getting my pilot license for something else rather than flying passengers around!
Plus having two other minors isnt bad!

indapit 04-05-2010 10:00 AM

Here are the posted comments of an ERAU student Mr. Cook

i currently have gone through 2 semesters at embry riddle. before i came to Riddle i got my singe engine private at a local FBO. I have to say that I was blown away about how strict and safe oriented Embry Riddle is. They will not let you go onto the next activity unless you perform the one before it with Practical Test Standards. They fully pride themselves with being the safest flight school operation. I have to say that it was a tough transition because before i was flying at manassas in virginia and i had to deal with the ADIZ other than that the flight instruction was a joke compared to Embry Riddles. I had a couple of problems getting stranded on a solo cross country back at manassas because of the poor quality of the planes. But at Embry riddle i have not had any maintenance problems yet because of the schools dedication to making sure everything is super safe. I think embry riddle should have an exception in the new bill because its the quality of the education that counts not the quantity. I have never been through any program that is so tough before in my life. Let me assure you that flying at Embry Riddle is not fun and because of that it teaches every pilot the stresses of what it means to be flying for hire. The program is so strict it feels like i am flying for the military. I am finally used to the strict and rigorous program and feel confident every time i go up that nothing bad is going to happen because i'm monitoring everything that is going on and always making sure i don't use bad judgement or make mistakes. Instead of feeling like a human flying if feel like i am a machine who does not make mistakes. Please do not make the mistake and ruin my dream of flying by passing this bill. its not experience that crashes happen its because of poor pilot judgement. and judgement needs to be taught better at other aviation schools instead of hindering people who work there buts off 3 times a week.



Thanks Mr. Cook. I guess I better start working my butt off three times a week.


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