Search
Notices
Hangar Talk For non-aviation-related discussion and aviation threads that don't belong elsewhere

Holy........

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-22-2011, 04:21 PM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
USMCFLYR's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,837
Default

They all look pretty real to me - sight and sound!

USMCFLYR
USMCFLYR is offline  
Old 08-22-2011, 07:16 PM
  #22  
Moderate Moderator
 
UAL T38 Phlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Curator at Static Display
Posts: 5,681
Default

Originally Posted by xjtguy View Post
I've always though this one was an edit job.
No, I'd bet money this is real. Most of the real low shots you see were obviously made in Afghanistan. People get bored and/or horny, and do crazy things. The French stuff (F-1Cs in desert valleys, the KC-135F at 100 ft) are, I believe, in Chad.

The three Jags in the "Top 10" video were from a deployment to Corsica in the 1980s.


The one you cited: I think this is Afghanistan. Depending on your viewpoint, that is either the bravest---or stupidest---low pass I have ever seen. The centerline pod only clears that guy's head by about a foot.
UAL T38 Phlyer is offline  
Old 08-22-2011, 07:21 PM
  #23  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,134
Default

Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
The one you cited: I think this is Afghanistan. Depending on your viewpoint, that is either the bravest---or stupidest---low pass I have ever seen. The centerline pod only clears that guy's head by about a foot.
Maybe, but do you think the cameraman is flinching, or moving in reaction to bow wave/wake?

If it's bow wave/wake, the dude standing up would do the same thing.

Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 08-22-2011 at 07:34 PM.
xjtguy is offline  
Old 08-22-2011, 07:42 PM
  #24  
Moderate Moderator
 
UAL T38 Phlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Curator at Static Display
Posts: 5,681
Default

Originally Posted by xjtguy View Post
Maybe, but do you think the cameraman is flinching, or moving in reaction to bow wave/wake?

If it's bow wave/wake, the dude standing up would do the same thing.
Good points; I watched it several times and froze it to try and find flaws.

Shadows seem to line-up (usually a weak-point of fakes).

My experience in fighters is that a bow-wave is either very small or non-existent. For example, the F-4 would not move the tail of the KC-135 or KC-10 around---but I know big jets do when taking fuel.

The subject of the video seems to have his feet placed one forward (his left) and the other slightly behind and sideways (his right), which would be the best way to brace for such an event. I would think a guy facing the jet would have a better ability to time/brace himself, and a guy filming would have a distorted view---a flinch or shock effect.

Details of him are a blur during the camera's movement, so hard to prove.

It is also possible the Mirage pulled up abruptly as he passed the subject. THAT would direct the thrust of the engine towards the ground and the cameraman....possibly mising the subject.

So, good points. I still lean towards real, but I admit it is possible to be a fake.
UAL T38 Phlyer is offline  
Old 08-22-2011, 07:51 PM
  #25  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,134
Default

All good points as well;

Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post

The subject of the video seems to have his feet placed one forward (his left) and the other slightly behind and sideways (his right), which would be the best way to brace for such an event.
True, but he appears to be standing upright, with the rear leg straight and the left slightly angled with hands on hips. Looks more like a casual stance than as if he's leaning into it.

Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
It is also possible the Mirage pulled up abruptly as he passed the subject. THAT would direct the thrust of the engine towards the ground and the cameraman....possibly mising the subject
True, but look how close it comes to the camera and the timing of the camera movement. If it was indeed due to abrupt pull up, it would have caused the camera to move later than it does. The camera flinch is almost instantaneous with passing over it. In the slo mo, the camera moves right as the airplane leaves the frame.
xjtguy is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ToiletDuck
Major
26
07-22-2010 12:28 PM
Dakota
Cargo
1
03-03-2008 09:30 AM
JoeyMeatballs
Regional
21
01-02-2008 07:36 PM
Freightpuppy
Regional
8
07-22-2007 03:57 PM
calcapt
Regional
17
12-27-2006 06:34 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices