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Old 01-11-2012, 04:42 AM
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I think you got your quotes wrong but thanks for the heads up. No way they are getting my $20 now.
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Waiver to finish this flight.
Then one of those sit down discussions that will probably last for years
Commercial pilot to get paid. No light sport aircraft. Seems simple.

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Waiver to finish this flight.
Then one of those sit down discussions that will probably last for years
Commercial pilot to get paid. No light sport aircraft. Seems simple.

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Unfortunately... just another of the many examples out there of the FAA being thugs.
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Unfortunately... just another of the many examples out there of the FAA being thugs.
Not sure I understand this.
Are you advocating NON-commercial pilots getting paid for flying?
Or that light sport aircraft with the lack of regulation, oversight, trainng requirements, and safety be available for use by the general public in uncontrolled settings?

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Not sure I understand this.
Are you advocating NON-commercial pilots getting paid for flying?
Or that light sport aircraft with the lack of regulation, oversight, trainng requirements, and safety be available for use by the general public in uncontrolled settings?

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Neither. I don't see the problem here. The people flying the LSA's are not being paid specifically to fly the planes, they are trained professionals who are being paid to care for the birds. Their work started long before they flew the migration path. If they're being compensated for nursing the birds to flight status and then are not paid for the flying part, which is what I gathered from reading a few articles about this matter, I don't see what the problem is.
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Neither. I don't see the problem here. The people flying the LSA's are not being paid specifically to fly the planes, they are trained professionals who are being paid to care for the birds. Their work started long before they flew the migration path. If they're being compensated for nursing the birds to flight status and then are not paid for the flying part, which is what I gathered from reading a few articles about this matter, I don't see what the problem is.
If you are correct and they are in fact salaried personel, then that will come out in the talks between the organization and the FAA after they are done with this flight. In the articles I have read, it did not explain it that way. Even if so, with the way regulations might be INTERPRETED, if part of their job description is the requirement to fly and they are getting paid, that might fall under the same 'holding out' type of clause.
There were some good threads on here earlier in year with people asking about doing 'Lights' tours and such and the discussions led more in-depth into the whole compensation issue. It certainly didn't seem clear cut.
Your part about them being paid for the nursing and then not the flying part might be semantics, it might be grey, it might right or wrong. I'm sure the tree-hugging liberlists pseudo-terrorist conservatory organization (as long as we are throwing names around) and the "thugs" will figure it all out in due time
In the end the Whooping Cranes made it to where they need to be.
I applaud the success.

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Edit. Btw - I really know nothing about the organization and certainly support the cause; I was just making a sarcastic point about the name-calling.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
If you are correct and they are in fact salaried personel, then that will come out in the talks between the organization and the FAA after they are done with this flight. In the articles I have read, it did not explain it that way. Even if so, with the way regulations might be INTERPRETED, if part of their job description is the requirement to fly and they are getting paid, that might fall under the same 'holding out' type of clause.
Good point, that's something they're going to have to work out with the feds. I guess I see the flip side of it too, if they're allowed to do this, where do you draw the line?.. it has to be somewhere...

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I'm sure the tree-hugging liberlists pseudo-terrorist conservatory organization (as long as we are throwing names around) and the "thugs" will figure it all out in due time
lol!!! Touche! Ya, I guess 'thugs' was a little heavy handed. I'm just getting sick of hearing the govt sticking their hand in everything... That comment was misguided, sorry to anyone who may have taken that the wrong way.
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