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PBSG 04-28-2012 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 1177465)
This drives me nuts, and its only regional guys that seem to say this. Controller - XXXX reduce your speed to 270." Pilot -"ok, reducing 270 on the nose."

Why do people say on the nose, whats the significance? I dont get it


Because going into places like EWR on most days they'll give you a speed "or greater", then a speed "or less", back to greater, back to less, then finally a set solid speed to hold "on the nose". Probably just a memory jogger to remember it's not an "or greater" or an "or less" speed.

teddyballgame 04-28-2012 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Crucero (Post 1175938)
I'd like to nominate the flight attendant that I let get in front of me at the airport security line right as I had everything on the belt ready to go....only for her to take what seemed 10 minutes to unload, take off, put away and empty before she passes the metal detector.....Just holding everyone up!!

Or maybe I'm the tool for letting her in the first place!!


Or the commuting F/A sitting in Row 10 of a 30-row aircraft. As soon as she can get up when the flight arrives at the gate in the crew base/connecting hub, she stands in the aisle, pulling carry-ons out of the overheads on both sides of her row (having pre-boarded at the departure station and used up half of the bin space in the coach cabin), and proceeds to put together her entire ensemble of Roll-A-Board, tote bag, cooler, Trader Joe's shopping bag, and God knows what else, while 95 revenue passengers are lined up behind her, glaring at her, waiting to deplane.

NuGuy 04-28-2012 08:04 AM

Well it could be worse. The old MSP pilot lounge had one urinal in the bathroom, and no door on the stall.

Plus it was right next the the boiler room, so it was 120 degrees, winter or summer.

Nu

gloopy 04-28-2012 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1177287)
When in doubt I recommend Bill Bryson's Dictionary of Troublesome Words.

I ain't afraid a no book.

shoelu 04-28-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1176368)
I'm a tool because I use popeye. I also say roger. The few times in my life I have said popeye, I've never had a controller not understand. They must understand tooldom.

You are now less clueless: Brevity code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia but you still may be tumbleweed.:D

From your Wikipedia page: "Multiservice tactical brevity codes are codes used by various military forces."

I truly appreciate your service along with all the other brave men and women that have fought and died for this nation. However, your current position is a civilian one with the rest of us civilians. If you are still in the guard or reserve feel free to use the military brevity codes where you can be sure everyone will understand your transmission. For the the sake of situational awareness in a busy airspace system I would like to understand the transmissions of the people I am sharing airspace with.

forgot to bid 04-28-2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 1177465)
This drives me nuts, and its only regional guys that seem to say this. Controller - XXXX reduce your speed to 270." Pilot -"ok, reducing 270 on the nose."

Why do people say on the nose, whats the significance? I dont get it

it's insurance against not holding it on the nose because they forgot to monitor the speed after pulling to idle. they'll catch it, at 230. where they then ram up the power, forget what they're doing and next thing they know they're looking up from a frustrating Angry Birds level to find 315 indicated.

but at least they promised they'd try!


:D

buzzpat 04-28-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by shoelu (Post 1177627)
From your Wikipedia page: "Multiservice tactical brevity codes are codes used by various military forces."

I truly appreciate your service along with all the other brave men and women that have fought and died for this nation. However, your current position is a civilian one with the rest of us civilians. If you are still in the guard or reserve feel free to use the military brevity codes where you can be sure everyone will understand your transmission. For the the sake of situational awareness in a busy airspace system I would like to understand the transmissions of the people I am sharing airspace with.

You're bordering on being a tool shoelu....dial it back. And, obtw, SWA guys are just as likely to use slang as any of the rest of us.

forgot to bid 04-28-2012 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1177541)
Well it could be worse. The old MSP pilot lounge had one urinal in the bathroom, and no door on the stall.

Plus it was right next the the boiler room, so it was 120 degrees, winter or summer.

Nu

been to JFK?

There you stand in the footsteps of the great Pan Am 747 Clippers ready to go to LHR, printing off your paperwork in a backroom with no ventilation or air conditioning except for a loud 40" fan that doesn't move air forward and unable to breathe because in the adjacent two ventless bathrooms are two dudes doing formation dumping.

it's not quite what you thought it'd be. :D

the best part is when the dude walks out, minus an o-ring, into a small room with 18 men and women and 12 printers jamming away all of whom are having to stand their and smell what you did and act like they don't notice.

oh where has the romance of this career gone!?

80ktsClamp 04-28-2012 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1177643)
been to JFK?

There you stand in the footsteps of the great Pan Am 747 Clippers ready to go to LHR, printing off your paperwork in a backroom with no ventilation or air conditioning except for a loud 40" fan that doesn't move air forward and unable to breathe because in the adjacent two ventless bathrooms are two dudes doing formation dumping.

it's not quite what you thought it'd be. :D

the best part is when the dude walks out, minus an o-ring, into a small room with 18 men and women and 12 printers jamming away all of whom are having to stand their and smell what you did and act like they don't notice.

oh where has the romance of this career gone!?

I take great pride in the destruction of the masses that occurs when I do a Sir John Harrington.

Just slam the door open, look around and yell "Whew! Do NOT go in there!"

unit monster 04-28-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 1177477)
I hear it more often from mainline guys myself.


I hear it most often from the corporate guys actually.


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