I don't even care if its a LCA, Mr. TOTD Jumpseater needs to zip it and keep his comments to himself until after the shutdown checklist. Do not be harassing me or my copilot and interfering with the working crew during a critical phase of flight, which includes taxi in.

Where do you work?

And I'm sure you never saw it, I haven't either until last month as it just changed and is now SOP and it SHALL be done per the FOM, as an informal debrief. Anybody that feels like challenging that is more than free to search on their iPad. If you aren't UAL, it isn't your problem now is it? I simply offered up what we do now, and you want to turn it into a ****ing match.

Aviation sure attracts some strange agents.

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Filler

Not for UAL.:)

I'm a geek. I'm also a former F-15 guy, and that means even if you try not debrief a little alien baby will pop out of your stomach, grab a whiteboard and 4 pens and go to town while you bleed out if you don't say SOMETHING...(..haven't seen a perfect flight yet after 35 years plus of trying....)

Seriously--last item on our shutdown checklist is now "Debrief". The recommended "2 minute debrief" which I use is A) Anything unsafe? B) Anything non standard? and C) Any unanswered questions or concerns? 90% of the time there is nothing to discuss. The other 10% is usually pretty quick--about 2 minutes. It is sometimes deferred to van ride or hotel for breakfast/dinner.

If I was doing 5 legs a day in an -88 or 320, would I do this? Maybe not. When you get 2-4 landings a month doing long haul international, sometimes there are a few things worth mentioning...or asking. In my case I'm a new captain on a new jet in new theater...while some of the FOs have either operated here for 5-7 years or are walking in as former 767 captains from another carrier. Again...maybe that makes me a tool, but I usually gleam something from the debrief, short and sweet as it is....

And its a "requirement" anyway per our FOM/checklist. So I do it. I'm buying the beer anyway so if it kills someone to suffer through it they will soon have a libation to ease the suffering....

Just don't ask any of the FA's for a "2 minute de-brief" to see if "anything is non-standard." They might get the wrong idea. :eek:


Very surprised most majors wouldn't SOP a few seconds debrief, even if it isn't much more than a nod and discussion of any troubles. It is encouraged in medical field after cases, usually also is a 10 second "that was ok" or any discussion of any issues if any. Doesn't have to turn into a major M&M session.

Yes. The killfile is your friend.

I think it's more the internet in general and this thread in particular.

There's even an MD that comes on here to authoritatively lecture airline pilots about airline flying.