I agree. If you go back and read the thread in order you will see that I replied to folks who insinuated that this incident would have turned out different if folks were allowed to take firearms into a movie theatre legally.

Thoughts and prayers to the victims and families from this sense less act.

The cultural rot in our country shows its ugly head again.... may those who died be forever in peace.

The evil in our midst is astounding, and it makes me mad. Too bad nobody else in the movie theater was toting a firearm.

What a senseless tragedy ,god bless them and the families of all involved .
'Though we loose the ones that we love may we take comfort in knowing that they will forever be in our hearts .'



Ally

A few posts ago I asked the forum members to be respectful of the topic at hand and not to bring political topics onto the thread. People are obviously passionate about their stance on gun rights - a political hot potato. Therefore - posts that might lead to discussions of such or arguments for or against are either flamebait and/or political.

Let's try and get this thread away from such topics. If the forum members that it is impossible to discuss such as issue without it coming down to such topics then I can close the thread and the participants who wish to discuss such topics can find any number of political forums.

USMCFLYR

Re: Mass Murder in Aurora
 

The first open carry guy to arrive on the scene in Tucson when Giffords got shot in the head almost dispatched the man who wrestled the Glock away from Loughner and that happened in broad daylight let alone a dark, smokey theater.

The NRA has fought tooth and nail against any kind of background checks to weed out ex felons, drug abusers or the mentally incompetent. They have fought for the sale of automatic/semi automatic phallic symbols with large capacity magazines - weapons that were specifically designed for war and taking out a lot of people, not hunting.

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I guess close is good enough if we are talking horseshoes hand grenades and gun control. I notice you used the word "almost" there skipper.

Famous quotes in history revised.
I almost had sex with that woman, Miss Lewinski.

As crazy as this guy was we can be thankful he at least told authorities about the booby trapped apartment. Many more lives could have been lost had police just barged right in. Silver linings, right?

Did he tell them? For some reason I thought the first officer who got there noticed them and brought in the bomb squad, but if you saw otherwise I'm glad to be wrong.

Figured he'd want them to go busting in and level the complex.

several news reports said he told them after he was arrested but who knows, that might have been eroneous reporting. I'm glad nobody else got hurt either way.

I read a report that him told them about the apartment and then the police viewed the inside of the place using a ladder truck from the fire department. At that report - a day or so later - they still had not even entered the apartment.

USMCFLYR

Re: Mass Murder in Aurora
 

The real hero of Tucson was unarmed when he manhandled the gun away from Loughner. Subsequently, the open carry Wyatt Earp saw him standing there with a Glock in his hand and described himself later as "lucky" for not shooting, putting a
point on exactly how close the actual hero came to being the victim of friendly fire.

This happened in daylight - not a darkened theater where tear gas canisters had
been deployed.

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Thoughts and prayers with the families...

How do we protect our families and ourselves?

Good points Jungle. When thugs walk into a convenience store to rob it while armed, the weapon is for intimidation. Look at all the youtube vids of thugs walking in, the proprietor or somebody else takes action with a firearm or quick reaction, and the thugs flee. THe thugs had NO intention of taking lives. And if they do shoot back, it's in the "gansta'" style sideways postion, while fleeing, and the only chance they have of hitting the target is by pure luck.

Whereas this person, like other incidents, had ALREADY made the decions that he was going to take lives. Because as you pointed out, insanity and lunacy. Which raises the point that IF a ccw person was present and took action, the chances of him dropping his weapon and fleeing are non existant. A gun shot or rounds flying by him probably would not have deterred him. He was hell bent and on a mission.

Taking us to the nest point.......

Yep, see the above. Who REALLY knows what would have happened? But if you've ever seen the footage from the L.A. bank robbery years ago, it plays into your initial points. That was in broad day light, NOT a dark theatre. There was no tear gas or whatever else, there was no crowd of people causing confusion in a confined area. The people shooting at bank robbers were trained police officers. They STILL didn't drop they're weapons and try to run. They simply fought back.

So do you have a point. Here is mine, I'll bet he couldnt have afforded all the ammo he bought if not for the pell grants and guvmint student loans. If we are going off in tangents I say let us really go for it.

Get your Concealed carry permit, practice 2+ times a month. After following the stories on the internet i was expecting a lot of "BAN GUNS" comments but now i think people realize the only way to stop this is being armed trained and prepared.


Really good video on concealed carry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei8OK4WdoW0

What would you have done to "stop this" if you were there?