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727gm 07-20-2012 12:06 PM

Strange that anyone would take 3-month old baby or six year-old kid to a midnight movie screening....

angry tanker 07-20-2012 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by 727gm (Post 1232861)
Strange that anyone would take 3-month old baby or six year-old kid to a midnight movie screening....

Need a license to drive a car, but nothing to be a parent:eek:

89Pistons 07-20-2012 12:15 PM

All four of his weapons were bought legally.
2 Glocks
1 Shotgun
1 Assult Riffle

EasternATC 07-20-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by 727gm (Post 1232861)
Strange that anyone would take 3-month old baby or six year-old kid to a midnight movie screening....

This is a very myopic comment from someone in the aviation industry. How do you not realize many people aren't on 9-to-5 schedules?

When my wife and I had our first child, she stayed home and I worked copious evening shifts, so it was quite common for all of us to be out and about at midnight.

It's summer, so the school-age kids don't have anywhere to be in the morning.

jungle 07-20-2012 12:16 PM

No matter how insane some people may be, they still understand that their best odds are against a group of innocent, unarmed people
in an enclosed area.

Police are there to clean up the mess, take notes and comment on the sad state of the human condition. That isn't going to help you during such an event.

89Pistons 07-20-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Death2Daleks (Post 1232859)
Huh? I wasn't aware this was a bygone conclusion of your common criminal.


I didn't say all. I said most. That opinion is based on multiple conversations with many family and friends that happen to be in law enforcement.

jungle 07-20-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 1232865)
All four of his weapons were bought legally.
2 Glocks
1 Shotgun
1 Assult Riffle

I am ready to outlaw crazy whenever you are, but I am not ready to ban cars over a few drunk/drugged drivers.

It is looking like the shooter had a long history with OWS and Black Bloc.

DirectTo 07-20-2012 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 1232853)
If someone wants to rob, do physical harm, or kill you, they will most likely approach it with the notion that you do have a gun. Guns aren't the deterrent most of you are making it seem.

As someone who has, and has used, a CHL, I can tell you, they're a very effective deterrent.

I carry everywhere I am legally permitted to. I keep myself up to date on the law of the state I live in, and the states I travel to where I can legally carry. I pay attention to my surroundings, and I regularly go to the range to pop some paper. A smart, well-qualified, legal gun owner will have the upper hand over a psychotic guy who grabs his gun and walks into the street.

Please don't lump CHL/CCW holders in with 'some gun owner' like the mainstream media does.


Similarly...here's a lovely story blaming Batman and action movies full of violence for his acts...from Yahoo (surprisingly :rolleyes: ):
Was James Holmes, Suspected Aurora Shooter, Inspired by Batman? - Yahoo!

89Pistons 07-20-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1232869)
I am ready to outlaw crazy whenever you are, but I am not ready to ban cars over a few drunk/drugged drivers.

Look, nowhere did I say outlaw them. I own a gun. What I said in my original post was that this tragedy is not a strong case for looser ccw laws. No one here knows for sure if no one else in that theatre had a gun. He did expect folks to have guns which is probably why he wore the vest. He gave up to the cops without a gun exchange.

jungle 07-20-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 1232874)
Look, nowhere did I say outlaw them. I own a gun. What I said in my original post was that this tragedy is not a strong case for looser ccw laws. No one here knows for sure if no one else in that theatre had a gun. He did expect folks to have guns which is probably why he wore the vest. He gave up to the cops without a gun exchange.

If we deny the right of self defense to the smallest minority, the individual, then we deny it to a large swath of the public. There is nothing "loose" about CCW laws, and CCW holders are the most law abiding group of people in the US.

This event had nothing to do with CCW, and everything to do with a complete lunatic.


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