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#21
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
I can see where you are trying to go, but most people I know, myself included, were full time instructors the last year or two of college. You have to do the bare minimum to not be a CFI by your junior or senior year. You are also only looking at someone going the airline route. When you look at my first 7 years and project for my next 3 I am right at your 70k a year average of your "typical" white collar job over the first ten years. I know my story isn't typical, but I think you are painting with a broad brush.
What I'm trying to point out is that the dues-paying is a hardship which for most folks will never be repaid (in financial terms). It's something to consider when doing the math about the cost of becoming a pilot.
People tend to assume that pilots get paid at least a living white-collar wage, but it's not true.
#23
I didn't even have to try that hard to find ways to keep my costs there. Anyone who tells you that it *WILL* cost you $80k+ is either a liar or they got duped into spending that much and want to bring you down with them.
#24
With The Resistance
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Pilot, Lawyer, Doctor or any other chance for success presents no easy path.
They all have their trials and dues paying, most people never get there because they never really want it enough. Fortune favors the prepared and sometimes it throws a monkey wrench into the works.
If you find an easy way please share it with us. I have a lot of friends working 60-80 hours a week, I am almost(almost) ashamed to tell them how little I actually work.
They all have their trials and dues paying, most people never get there because they never really want it enough. Fortune favors the prepared and sometimes it throws a monkey wrench into the works.
If you find an easy way please share it with us. I have a lot of friends working 60-80 hours a week, I am almost(almost) ashamed to tell them how little I actually work.
Last edited by jungle; 03-20-2013 at 04:47 PM.
#25
I love the idea of ending up like Jungle, what a career that guy has. The reason I fly for a living is, that flying selects me. I cannot stand desk jobs despite having quite a few notable ones. I end up leaving every time for low quality flying jobs where glamor and cash are in very short supply and hardship is very long. But I am happy with what I chose with death as an advisor.
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
I love the idea of ending up like Jungle, what a career that guy has. The reason I fly for a living is, that flying selects me. I cannot stand desk jobs despite having quite a few notable ones. I end up leaving every time for low quality flying jobs where glamor and cash are in very short supply and hardship is very long. But I am happy with what I chose with death as an advisor.
We are all just here for a little while. Minutes may seem an eternity or fifty years may pass in a flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj8N8Nvv6ys
Last edited by jungle; 03-20-2013 at 05:29 PM.
#27
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If you CFI in your junior or senior year, and have say, 5 students, those 5 students can't CFI in their junior or senior and have 5 students, because the class size would have be 5 times what it was when you did it. The class size would have to exponentially increase with each "generation" of flight instructors. I've seen this model be attempted, work for a short period, and then fail. A few get "lucky", but it's not sustainable. Yes, you might be able to found some people outside of your area to flight instruct, but I don't think there'll ever be enough to really affect that situation. That goes back into a "in the right place at the right time". Not everyone can CFI and build hours that way, not because they aren't good teachers or because they don't want to do it, but because numbers-wise it can never work.
#30
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If you CFI in your junior or senior year, and have say, 5 students, those 5 students can't CFI in their junior or senior and have 5 students, because the class size would have be 5 times what it was when you did it. The class size would have to exponentially increase with each "generation" of flight instructors. I've seen this model be attempted, work for a short period, and then fail. A few get "lucky", but it's not sustainable. Yes, you might be able to found some people outside of your area to flight instruct, but I don't think there'll ever be enough to really affect that situation. That goes back into a "in the right place at the right time". Not everyone can CFI and build hours that way, not because they aren't good teachers or because they don't want to do it, but because numbers-wise it can never work.
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