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Old 05-25-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Enjoy. The Pilot Shortage Crisis Is Nigh! … Or Not
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Old 05-25-2013 | 12:10 PM
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Good read.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 01:47 AM
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Eh... it was an okay read. I see no real data to back up their argument, but it's some good common sense pull out of the rear writing
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Old 05-26-2013 | 05:57 AM
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I liked it. I hope that pilot prospects pay particular attention to the part that says flight schools and other interests are creating a looming shortage to sell flight training. Remember in 2008/2009 when almost every airline in the country was furloughing? It astounded me to find an aopa magazine with "pilot shortage" on front page. Or these atp ads even on here. "pilots in high demand, amazing career" etc etc.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 06:26 AM
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It was an interesting read.

It touched on the economic perspective, growth perspective and international carriers perspective, but what I didn't see anything about was the upcoming retirement numbers taken into account. It also showed percentages, but no hard numbers to prove them.

It definitely wasn't all-inclusive, but an interesting read none the less.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by captain152
It was an interesting read.

It touched on the economic perspective, growth perspective and international carriers perspective, but what I didn't see anything about was the upcoming retirement numbers taken into account. It also showed percentages, but no hard numbers to prove them.

It definitely wasn't all-inclusive, but an interesting read none the less.
I think they covered the retirements indirectly when it mentioned how mainline is shifting flying from the regionals while later mentioning the regional airlines demand for pilots in the next few years. The 600+ this year and the 2000+ at the latter part of the decade when the big three airlines will retire close to that amount per year.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 08:15 AM
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Haha. Someone said 'pilot shortage.'


Yaaa right!
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Old 05-26-2013 | 09:16 AM
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The fact of the matter is that becoming a pilot is something that all too many boys and some girls want to do when they grow up (and it's not like we can blame them for that though), and many of them fail to do their research on how the lifestyle actually is, or simply don't care at that early stage of making their decision. Some who have already begun their training on the PPL may be so engrossed with the allure of flying that they fail to heed the warnings, and still will give it their all to fly for a living. This makes them easy "prey."

The flight schools and airlines know all these qualities--they know what makes pilots tick and they will exploit this by putting bait in the public domain that there will be a pilot shortage one day. Often this will be enough to make the pilots in training, who may harbor any doubts about how their future may unfold, work all that harder to earn their ratings and certificates and go for that $17-24k per year job. The winners are the flight schools and the airlines who then make more money and have a bigger stock of pilot fodder off which they can lower wages further.

That's just the damned reality of our corporate culture, wherein lies are often employed to raise the bottom line.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 09:41 AM
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The fact of the matter is that becoming a pilot is something that all too many boys and some girls want to do when they grow up (and it's not like we can blame them for that though), and many of them fail to do their research on how the lifestyle actually is, or simply don't care at that early stage of making their decision. Some who have already begun their training on the PPL may be so engrossed with the allure of flying that they fail to heed the warnings, and still will give it their all to fly for a living. This makes them easy "prey."

The flight schools and airlines know all these qualities--they know what makes pilots tick and they will exploit this by putting bait in the public domain that there will be a pilot shortage one day. Often this will be enough to make the pilots in training, who may harbor any doubts about how their future may unfold, work all that harder to earn their ratings and certificates and go for that $17-24k per year job. The winners are the flight schools and the airlines who then make more money and have a bigger stock of pilot fodder off which they can lower wages further.

That's just the damned reality of our corporate culture, wherein lies are often employed to raise the bottom line.
Very true. Another factor to consider is that these young aviator hopefuls want to believe that a career in flying will be glamerous and rewarding. Thus, you could spend hours explaining the reality, but it only takes one ad about a pilot shortage and thats it. I was once a young big eyed kid who ignored warnings about this job because I wanted so badly to believe that it wasn't true. So I can definitely understand why these false advertisments about a pilot shortage are so effective.
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Old 05-26-2013 | 03:29 PM
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Let's hear it for "Pilot Analyst"! Woot woot!
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