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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Apparently, my life is semi-incomplete seeing as how I've never dined at In and Out. Is it good enough to justify jumpseating out from STL, or should I just wait until I happen to be in the area?
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Old 01-04-2007 | 01:38 PM
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Apparently, my life is semi-incomplete seeing as how I've never dined at In and Out. Is it good enough to justify jumpseating out from STL, or should I just wait until I happen to be in the area?
when I met my wife.. she was borderline obsessive about my trying it, and I thought "what's the big deal?"

Anyway, it's now the ONLY fast food that I'll eat (also Chick Filet).. quality is A+, Service is A+, and over all the company is a first class employer.

Sadly, the founder died in a Wake turbulence accident (behind a 757) at LAX some 10-15 years ago, and never show it go nation wide.. back then it was LA area only.

Oh... and here is the best part, like SWA, they're menu is simple..

Single burger or Double.
Fries
Shake or soda's.

My wife being odd, actually usually gets a "Grilled Cheese" which is where they make the burger with the grilled onion, but no meat.. Women!
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Old 01-04-2007 | 04:11 PM
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Apparently, my life is semi-incomplete seeing as how I've never dined at In and Out. Is it good enough to justify jumpseating out from STL, or should I just wait until I happen to be in the area?
They have one right by SFO as well. The first exit south of the airport on 101 - same exit as the Westin and many other airport hotels.
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Old 01-04-2007 | 09:11 PM
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exactly, the truth is .. the fear mongering that the business lobby tries to use to keep min wage down, which is the BS that all things will become more expensive is total BS... what is true, is that their FAT profit margins will just narrow a bit, and that is what gets them worried. I've been on the owner and employee side of the fence, and a good manager can run a profitable business AND pay a good wage.. if the two are not compatible, then the business model is flawed, or there is a windfall to the ownership that is both immoral, and in the long run going to lead to people problems in retention, and quality.

A perfect example is "In and Out" burger.. They pay upwards of $10/hr to start, with better benefits packages than most pilot jobs today.. they're menu is simple, and the quality of their food is top.. YET.. they're growing like gangbusters, and they're employees are among the best paid and happiest in the industry.

Try to walk up to the counter at a In and Out and stand there.. not a few seconds will pass by before someone comes up and asks you if you need anything.. Now, do the same at the local McDonnalds or other bottom dweller minimum wage hugger...... nuff said.

Question...If you raise the minimum wage will the guy at McD's do a better job. Or will he continue to stare at me with that stupid look on his face? One more. If In and Out is paying $10/hour and running a better business, why should the government make McD's pay the same? Let them compete and the harder workers will get paid more. Just like the example you gave. Just a thought.
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Old 01-04-2007 | 09:31 PM
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but nothing on the Peninsula where I lived..
Yeah they do. It is right by SFO! Take the Millbrae exit. Good eating!

About the min wage. The author of this thread makes me mad. Such ignorance can not go unchallenged. Previous posters have mentioned that costs will not be affected much. What pi$$ed me off is your idea that the government tax revenue will increase. Do you really think that is the reason they raise the min wage? Do min wage workers pay any income tax anyway? NO! (The do pay SSI, I know) If the government wanted to raise revenue, there are many more ways, far more effective and less politically volatile, to do that.

Without knowing you, I can say with some confidence, stop listening to Rush, Sean, and Bill. You might learn something.

Sorry for the flame thrower. These kinds of beliefs push my buttons.
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Old 01-05-2007 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by POPA
Apparently, my life is semi-incomplete seeing as how I've never dined at In and Out. Is it good enough to justify jumpseating out from STL, or should I just wait until I happen to be in the area?
I think it is really cool how In and Out treats its people. I went to BUR last year, and everyone said to go to In and Out. I remember "John 3:16" was printed on the bottom of the drink cup.I am glad they are successful, and wish that it continues for them. As far as the food, I wouldn't travel far to get it.

Chick-fil-A is another place that treats it's people well. They are even closed on Sunday. Their food is excellent, but I wouldn't travel 3,000 miles for it. Come to think of it, I wouldn't travel 3,000 miles for any food but Mom's.
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