If you guys want to chip in I'll do it full facial. And I'll get a big Gothic APC on the neck too. That should do it.

Don't forget the tribal band around your biceps! Oh wait, I actually like those as long as your upper ams aren't puny. ;)

My upper arms are so massive and ripped they make Arnold want to step it up a bit. It would take at least a gallon of ink to tattoo a band around my upper arm.:cool:;)

and you will also need a dragon or other symbolic bird on one side of your upper back.


P.S. just looked in the mirror and realized i have one. aw *******

Good idea!

If you want to express your individuality, and in doing so feel compelled to put a permanent mark on your body that is visible in public, knock yourself out.

If you then want the public to "understand" and "relate" to you, or at least not say "***", and pay you a six figure salary, you may find is challenging.

Do doctors, rock stars, and athletes tat themselves up? Sure. But they don't interview at IBM, Delta Air Lines, or get a W-2 from those kinds of companies. There are 13,000 folks with apps at the legacies right now. Most of the HR folks and captains doing the hiring aren't covered in tattoos. You may be a better pilot than the non-inked guy, but you are sending a strong signal that being an individual is more important that conformity to you. I'm an individual, but I also know that to there are certain organizations…Boy Scouts, Boys State, ROTC, the Air Force, and many airlines that value a certain amount of conformity. You are flying in the face of those values when you get yourself a *****in' tattoo that cannot be easily covered.

Women bob their hair, dye their hair, style their hair, braid their hair, and can change their looks on a whim. But it isn't permanent. Ink a face, neck, or forearm, however, and the style becomes a bit more fixed. I am a dude, but I like the flexibility. I've back-packed across Europe riding trains with a bandana on my head (and a military ID in my pocket….). I've skipped shaving and done the March 'stache thing a few times. I can change my look (a little, anyway….going bald is a *****…) but as someone else said I change every decade. What is cool at 18 may not be at 28, 38, 48, etc.

YMMV. Wanna be a rock star? Go nuts. Want to be a 777 captain? You better understand the environment you seek employment.

So a Pratt and Whitney tatt on the face or neck would be okay then? Right?

Well, they generally don't. Doctors are a conservative lot. In medical school I had a friend with a nose ring and she was asked to take it out when starting on the wards, and she eventually let it heal up.

Having a tattoo would significantly limit your career in the medical world. ER docs would probably be the most "accepting" field of this... others would include radiology, pathology (little patient contact) and perhaps psychiatry.

My hospital explicitly bans visible tattoos on docs but makes "individual appropriateness decisions" for RNs and staff.

That is ONLY the Army NOT the entire military. The four-star Commandant of the Marine Corps has sleeve tattoos on BOTH arms and says regs against such are "horse****!".

Still, there are exceptions. I was picking up a patient in West Armpit, Texas and saw a 60+ year old biker walk in through the ambulance entrance. He had a long grey pony tail, tattoos, and was sporting his club colors. He poked his head into a couple rooms, and I was about challenge him when a nurse said, "Hi Dr. xxxxx."

I think that attitude is why tatoos with USS in them tend to be ignored.

Username "Jungle" has described such fellows before, in his usual eloquent style. Something about middle aged/older men going through a crisis that like to play Halloween dress up.

If it happens in their younger years, they're "Yuppie Davidsons".

If you're referring to James Mattis, you're wrong. He didn't say that and he doesn't have sleeve tats. That was photoshop on a satirical website (the duffel blog).

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...2013/07/hi.gif

Can you provide the name and a picture of this USMC Commandant with sleeve tats; because you certainly are not talking about the CURRENT 35th Commandant of the Marine Corps (Gen Amos). Though he did say that when he retired he wanted to grow a pony-tail and get a nipple ring. That was back when he was *just* a Colonel though - I'm sure he has outgrown that phase! :eek:

Edit:
I hope you didn't get your info that Jughead mentioned off this site:
http://www.duffelblog.com/tag/general-james-mattis/

As an aside - and whether many WANTED Gen Mattis to be the next Commandant - he is not the Commandant and will never be the Commandant.

I know Mattis, and have worked with him in a shirt sleeve environment. He doesn't have visible tats...unless he got some after he retired.

Not sure where you heard this but it's completely incorrect.

FYI ladies and gentlemen. There is currently no written prohibition against visible tattoos at UAL. And that is verified through flight and corporate management.

Most likely a merger oversight but at the moment visible tatts are good to go. I figure it will be about 30 days or fewer after this posting that we will see an FOM update in the pilot appearance area. So if you ever wanted that ultra cool flying, turbo jet powered, winged demon, wrapped around a cloud on your neck. Now is the time to do it!;)

..or a replica of my avatar......:)

“This policy that doesn’t allow sleeve tattoos is a bunch of horse****,” said Mattis, as he showed off his own full-sleeve tattoos running down both arms. “So that’s the first thing to go.”

Another policy change includes tweaks to physical training...

“These air wingers and admin folks think they are sitting pretty, only heading to the gym or not doing PT at all,” said Mattis, in between his third round of 350lb back squats. “So I’ll also be leading them in 15 mile runs until they shape up.”

Finally, Mattis says he’ll reverse the no-hazing policy that Marines have been under since the nineties, saying that it’s “good ******* training.”

“Listen, I don’t like stupid ****,” said Mattis. “but if you’re one of my fine young men about to go on deployment and you have a boot who isn’t listening, I think it’s a valuable training tool to duct tape him to a bench, mentor on an emotional level with a wall-to-wall counseling session, or make him dig a hole to China.”

Read more: Gen James Mattis Announced As Marine Commandant

I so wanted all that to be true...

How realistic is the bandage approach for a forearm tattoo? Accepted denied by certain regionals?

Sorry to revive a dead thread but I'm curious as to if cargo carriers such as FedEx feeders care about visible tattoos as much as say, 121 passenger carriers. Anyone know?

Maybe not, but that's not typically the kind of place you want to stay for a career. Big-jet cargo operators will have the same standards as pax airlines.

Probably easiest to just wear long sleeves. If they're visible above the collar or below the sleeves you probably need to get them lasered off, or your options as a pilot will be very limited.

Hahaha i worked with that guy before he was odd

we allowed F/As to have full osama beards now. Why not visible tats?

Pilots aren't FA's.

You can always be a mechanic. The tats will increase your social standing, total "whiskey tango" culture.

If you own a tat shop or play drums in a band, by all means go for it. You might be the richest guy or gal in the room but people will make assumptions. It’s literally ink driven under the skin with a needle, not a sure-fire, feel-good opportunity to demonstrate to the world its naïveté.

It’s 2018, plenty of tattoo removal centers are in every major city. If you only want some ink for 10 or 20 years, no problem.

I know someone going through tattoo removal presently. It is a long process with no guarantee of total success. It is very expensive and somewhat painful to this person - meaning the site is red and inflamed for a few days afterwards. This was a very simple black ink only tattoo about the size of a silver dollar - not some multi-colored sleeve. Sort of like a vasectomy which some will say can be reversed, you had better look at it as something permanent in the here and now. I’m sure removal technology will continue to improve but that is still a roll of the dice.

And that assumes you aren't a keloid former. You want to see some disasters, Google keloid and tattoo and hit images.

Man, I KNEW I shouldn't have looked at that right before bed:eek:

The hipsters have ruined everything. If I see you with two sleeves of ink in uniform, I basically know right away that you’re just one hell of a big *****. Tatts and PBR used to be cool until the millennials and hipsters got to them.

Yeah. I got my full sleeve tatoo so I could be just as unique as everyone else.

If somebody could invent some 5 year disappearing ink, they would be RICH!!!!!

I don't have any tats myself because permanent lasts a long time....

Let’s first state I don’t really get the draw to them at all. But out of all tattoos that I wonder about, I am just curious as why people get back tattoos. If you love tattoos why would you put it somewhere you almost never look if you like it so much to put it on your body. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve seen my back. Only reason I may is for reaching a pimple to pop. And even then I don’t think I would be checking out my tattoo much during the process.
The other one I don’t really understand is the commemorative tattoos. They mean something which is big deal. Does your memory not work? Why do you need a tattoo to remind you of something so substantial in your life and if it wasn’t that substantial for you to remember it why do you a need a tattoo for it.
In my generation it’s more counter culture to not have tattoos. I however never saw the point in them. I don’t, however, judge people when I see tattoos on them I just don’t understand it and I don’t have to. BTW my wife has a couple tattoos and she wishes she never got them now. I think a lot of people do after a while but of course there are plenty that don’t or won’t admit it because they wouldn’t want to admit they made a “mistake” in doing so.

The girl in the Martini glass has a certain appeal, and don't forget "Death before dishonor" especially at contract time.

An alternative strategy is “Take the dishonor, then wait patiently for your chance....” :mad: