Delta pilot ATC Rant
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#82
I don't believe you. If he retired in 1997, I'd like to know how he took a major hit on his pension. Feel free to post his numbers.
#84
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As far as your buddy who retired in 97 it's sad you consider him a friend when he is a flat out liar. He would have been 67 to 68 when the plan was terminated. They took at best a 200 to 300 dollar a month hit and if he was 68 probably nothing. They also received compensation in a claim sale.
#85
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
You should do a little research. For starters they dumped one pension on the PBGC. There was no plural. All other pension were kept. The one pension dumped on the PBGC was the pilot plan. The PBGC received a substantial stock grant in the reorganized Delta in the assumption of that plan. It turned out the PBGC basically made money on the deal and in fact had to pay pensions well above their normal max to Delta pilots because of that recovery. In addition you seem to have no idea that the PBGC is essentially a private insurance company not funded by the tax payers. It is funded by insurance premiums.
As far as your buddy who retired in 97 it's sad you consider him a friend when he is a flat out liar. He would have been 67 to 68 when the plan was terminated. They took at best a 200 to 300 dollar a month hit and if he was 68 probably nothing. They also received compensation in a claim sale.
As far as your buddy who retired in 97 it's sad you consider him a friend when he is a flat out liar. He would have been 67 to 68 when the plan was terminated. They took at best a 200 to 300 dollar a month hit and if he was 68 probably nothing. They also received compensation in a claim sale.
Originally Posted by PBGC in denying the PC3 group's claims
When the Pilots Plan terminated, its total underfunding - i.e., the difference between the ' values of its assets and its benefit liabilities - exceeded $2.5 billion.
PBGC's guarantee under ERISA ensures that pension plan participants and beneficiaries will receive their pension benefits up to the statutory limits even if their terminated plan has no assets. Because the Pilots Plan had some assets when it terminated and because PBGC obtained significant recoveries from Delta, ERISA authorizes PBGC to pay additional nonguaranteed benefits to Pilots Plan participants and beneficiaries.
Overall, PBGC is paying over $1.8 billion of the Pilots Plan's nonguaranteed benefits, in addition to over $1.6 billion in guaranteed benefits. Nevertheless, PBGC is unable to pay nearly $1.1 billion of the Plan's benefits.
PBGC is unable to pay all Pilots Plan benefits primarily because ERISA places a cap, • known as the Maximum Guaranteed Benefit ("MGB") limit, upon the amounts that PBGC guarantees. For the Pilots Plan, the MGB is $47,659 per year for a participant who begins receiving PBGC benefits at age 65 in the form of a straight life annuity ("SLA"). Because the large majority of appellants have Plan benefits that exceed the MGB, PBGC is often unable to guarantee their full Plan benefit amounts.
#86
Are you sure about that? I thought that everyone lost 100% of his unqualified benefits, which for those who took the lump sum would have been most of the remaining monthly benefit.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
The rest of us look at those intrepid MD88 pilots returning from a mission with awe and fear. You know, you see the respect when you hear one of them print off a rotation (all those legs) and the rest of the lounge stops for a moment in guarded silence, lets him get his trip off the printer (no weather mind you, because they don't stop for nothin) and after a moment's respect, the rest of the pilots resume their talk Munich layovers and the women of Prague.
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* In typical Mickey Douglas fashion it fell apart half way there, but Buzz was able to use a Bic pen to close the circuit to fire the lunar ascent rocket ... true story.
Mickey Douglas + Apollo = Dead Astronaughts
Mickey Douglas + Duct Tape + Chewing Gum + Improvised Circuit Breakers made of Bic Pens = Success and an Academy Award for Tom Hanks.
#90
I'm not going to insinuate you're a douche, or even a tool, but you're quickly approaching that status.
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