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01-13-2007, 08:24 AM

Puppyz

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Water Power

wow, this is amazing...
http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=192055

01-13-2007, 09:52 AM

ToiletDuck

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That is awesome. There are kits already available for cars at $900. Might be worth looking into.

01-13-2007, 04:19 PM

Ewfflyer

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Very cool. Now to the true test of the Oil company lobbying in Washington to crush this.

01-13-2007, 04:23 PM

ToiletDuck

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With the Democrats good luck.

01-14-2007, 03:40 AM

jungle

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The torch has been around for a while and breaks the water down to it's to elements-hydrogen and oxygen. This always takes more energy than it produces, which is why such an idea used in a car is a scam.

Nobody is holding up alternate fuels except a market awash in cheaper oil. If hydrogen or any other semi-practical fuel could be produced cheaper than gasoline, we would be using it.

01-14-2007, 11:19 AM

ToiletDuck

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Originally Posted by jungle

Everything requires more energy to make than it gives off. However hydrogen/fuel hybrids do have their advantages already. Also if you notice you can buy a complete hydrogen setup from the man. Uses solar panels to run the generator that produces the hydrogen. There are other companies that make the hybrid systems. They use the current off your alternator to run and they work rather well.

01-14-2007, 11:46 AM

Puppyz

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Originally Posted by jungle

Nobody is holding up alternate fuels except a market awash in cheaper oil. If hydrogen or any other semi-practical fuel could be produced cheaper than gasoline, we would be using it.

Well that's a great attitude. We might as well just give up trying.

01-14-2007, 11:51 AM

ToiletDuck

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Actually they are building a coal conversion plant in montana that can convert coal to oil at a rate of 22,000 barrels a day and produce power for 250k homes. The oil produced would actually have much less pollution.

01-14-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

Well in that case invest heavily in the company and buy one or more of the kits.
You may have noticed that large fleet operators are not jumping onboard. It is a scam. He would have you believe he has done what GM, BMW, Ford and countless other companies with multi-billion dollar R&D efforts have been unable to accomplish.