RhinoPherret

As LNL76 notes; No sympathy.

Lame excuses and trying to lay blame at the feet of others for actions you choose to take does not cut it! Also, that same type of reasoning is a direct insult to the untold number of people who suffer poverty, financial, and extreme health problems and yet make conscious decisions to not commit criminal acts. It’s not a complicated decision process contrary to what some folks might want you to believe.

UAL T38 Phlyer

OK, a bit harsh by me. I had a few libations, and was a bit miffed about an unrelated topic. I'll own it.....sorry.

On the other hand, the circumstantial evidence is pretty bad.

A few months back, I was about board on an International deadhead. No pax were on yet.

There was some kind of fracas in the jetway with the working crew, and customs.

Customs seemed pretty agitated. As we appraoched, we flashed our passports, and they stopped us.

What the????

"Sir, we need you to certify you have less than $10,000 in cash on your person. How much cash do you have?"

Now, mind you, I knew there were limits like this, but had never actually been interrogated.

I pulled out my wallet; I had a couple of hundred bucks.

Apparently, someone on the working crew had tried to take more than that, and was trying to hide it.

My point: anyone who has travelled internationally would know about these limits; they are on the customs declaration. He is a 777 FO, so it is safe to say he has been international a few times.

And if he willfully violated that?

Hard to give much sympathy.

USMCFLYR

If this were a court of law then yes....but it is an internet forum where people discuss things....and in this case the guy isn't being given much leeway.
It happens. The world will continue to turn and all will be right in the universe of rainbows and unicorns.

MaxThrustPower

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Originally Posted by RhinoPherret

As LNL76 notes; No sympathy.

Lame excuses ...

I was not suggesting, if he is found guilty, that he deserves "SYMPATHY" from the legal system. There is a huge difference in "sympathy" from the court and "EMPATHY" from our fellow man. My point was that we do not know all the facts or what led to this situation. Regardless of the facts, someone else's circumstances are not mine to judge, unless I'm tasked to sit on a 'jury of his peers.' Other than that, it's really none of my business ... or yours.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "There but for the grace of God go I"?

I never agreed that someone should be allowed to use "lame excuses" to get away with committing a criminal act. But there can be extenuating circumstances, more than just blatant disregard for the law. I never said any of those situations would EXCUSE an actual crime, only help someone to understand how a fellow human being could be led down the wrong path.

John 8:7. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

CanoePilot

It's a stupid unjust law.

God forbid someone do with their own money what they want. It's like the "crime" of putting your own money in an account not in this country. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are plenty of fools out there that think electing a self-described socialist is a good idea.

Packrat

Since you obviously hate socialism, I suggest you do the following:

1. Pledge never to accept Social Security payments of any kind.
2. Pledge never to sign up for Medicare.
3. Pull your kids out of public school immediately.
4. Never drive on the public roadways.
5. Never consult the National Weather Service for weather information before you fly.
6. Never visit a National Park.
7. Give up your airline job because you will only be able to fly VFR.
8. Don't use the Postal Service.

Those are just a few American "Socialist" programs off the top of my head.

CanoePilot

1. I was forced to pay into that crap system and would rather keep my money

2. Ok

3. I would never put my kids in public school.

4. I pay taxes for that.

5. the postal service is a joke, If I need to send something I use fedex.

If your case for what you think is socialism is to use these poorly run government institutions you make my point full and well.

Margaret Thatcher said it the best, "the problem with socialism is you end up running out of other peoples money."

Socialism has fail and always will fail. Nationals Socialism failed, Communist Socialism failed and Democratic Socialism is failing. Just look at the poster children of Europe. Enjoy your 90% income tax that a certain someone who has never held a real job, run a business and has only worked in government his whole life wants.

Tybus

Yep. That's why we have 18 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Soviet style central planning will always fall under its own weight no matter what Senator Pale Pot from Vermont says.

Packrat

You obviously have a fear of the word socialism. National Socialism (otherwise known as the NAZIs) were conservatives who would embrace Donald Trump today.

Communist "Socialism" wasn't socialism at all, it was COMMUNISM, two entirely different animals.

Democratic Socialism is working just fine in Germany and the Scandinavian countries today.

You might want to educate yourself and figure out why you're afraid of a word you can't even define.

P.S. You forgot to respond to the NWS and VFR flying. I guess those two government agencies are fine by you.

Actually we have most of that debt because your "boys" George Bush and Dick Cheney decided to keep the Iraq war debt off the books. It took Obama to bring that debt back into the equation. You want to blame someone for unfunded debt? Start with St. Ronald Reagan and his trickle down "Voodoo" economics.

You probably don't recall the fact that Bill Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office. The Shrub reversed that mighty quick.

Tybus

Nazi socialists were absolute socialist. Here is a link to the party platform.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati...ialist_Program

Most of the candidates today Dem or Repub would agree with a lot of the platform on economics which is scary.

No it isn't and it's not. The final stage Communism is anarchy which means the collective has shed the need for a central govt. the first stage is capitalism which evolves to socialism. Russia was a backwater economy in which the Bolshevik's went straight to the socialism stage (who wants to wait) where they remained until the USSR crumbled. Communism is impossible to achieve and that is why Marx is one of the 19th century's most influential religious leaders.

Scandinavia Isn?t A Socialist Paradise

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...oIN/story.html


We have most of that debt due to Medicare,Social Security and Defense, which is the smallest of the three. Reagan started a bad precedent with deficit spending but it had nothing to due with supply side economics. Bush was one of the worst Presidents this country has had, only to be followed up with another one, but how did he keep the war "off the books"?

US Federal Budget FY16 Estimated Spending Breakdown - Pie Chart.

Never trust a politician with money. When it's everybody's money it gets treated like it's nobody's money.